• This community needs YOUR help today. We rely 100% on Supporting Memberships to fund our efforts. With the ever increasing fees of everything, we need help. We need more Supporting Members, today. Please invest back into this community. I will ship a few decals too in addition to all the account perks you get.



    Sign up here: https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/account/upgrades

Japanese reproduction flintlock identification

Muzzleloading Forum

Help Support Muzzleloading Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
You would ! :wink: :haha: Their cousin Hosegawa Hawkens!

You guys just kept at it till I had to go hunt through the old catalogs. Seems there were two versions 40 years ago! Arms International had the version with a hinged patchbox, French walnut stock, and double case-hardened frizzen for $78.00! Liberty Arms had the "Tower Flintlock Rifle" and advertised as "caliber .69. smoothbore musket similar to those used in 18th century." :shocked2: Theirs came with flat box lid, iron ramrod like the Bess and was $54.95 with a $59.95 "Deluxe Version"...probaly hot dip galvanized to be authentic!! :rotf:
 
That is one of the sickest things I've ever seen. Didn't know till now Japan would write "Japan" on a gun in 1880, and that they were exporting guns, and to Afghan war lords in defense of their tribal lands against the British.

I still think it's a Hawken -- I can prove it because it looks nothing like a T/C Hawken so it MUST BE an original, rare, Ichikawa Hawken and needs to be in The Museum of the Fur Trade where just an hour makes you an expert.
 
So after reading everybody's opinions on this ML. I feel guilty charging the guy as much as we agreed apon. By the sounds of it I should pay him to take it away lol
 
It is a valuable example of poor, dangerous quality.

I recently saw a Yugo with 40K miles bring $3,000 at auction. Might be the last one running in the state. :wink:
 
mrremington said:
So after reading everybody's opinions on this ML. I feel guilty charging the guy as much as we agreed apon. By the sounds of it I should pay him to take it away lol

Didn't you read the expert evaluation of that "rare Japanese musket"? It's worth $6,888.00
 
U say Yugo and I know u mean a Yugoslavian Mauser.

"48 thousand rounds through it I guess he means, for $3,000 is insane... But the last one running? That's a semi-auto expression! Oh, he really DOES mean the car!"

Yugoslavia nationalized the POS Fiat factory there when the Italians really didn't want it anymore anyway and that became the POS Yugo!
 
Well I cleaned it up added a flint and a ram rod. The buyer was so happy. I told him strictly a wall hanger. Thanks for all your help
 
Are you talking about a rifle or a pistol? You need to provide a bit more information.

Perhaps 35 or more years ago, there were some Japanese-made kits on the market. My wife actually gave me a flintlock pistol kit she got at a discount store and, after looking it over, we took it back for a refund. The components were very crude and the inletting on the stock was terrible. It would have been too much work to assemble and finish it with the final result being less than desireable no matter how carefully it was done. I have not seen one lately but I suspect that is what you are talking about. I do not remember the brand name only that it was made in Japan.
I have one of the same Pistols that Japan with the eagle are they worth firing
 
Yes sorry it's a musket 32 inch barrel. After removing the charge in the barrel I removed the lock it was so full of hardened grease. I put a flint in the jaws. The geometry is way off on the lock It certainly is a poor quality gun.
Pictures? I may have a lock that will work....
 
Back
Top