Why only one?

[Cliffdweller]

Because it’s for single shot muzzleloaders. Why are you wasting your time arguing here? Petition the Fish & Wildlife board. Call your counties board member.

You are correct, that is what I need to do. Contacting F&W was not the way to go

 

[QuinnTheEskimo]

You are correct, that is what I need to do. Contacting F&W was not the way to go

They don’t make the rules, the board does.

 

[OldRust]

In PA you can carry a BP pistol also. At one time I thought it was an OK idea. Now I think it's a lot of unneeded bulk and weight. Reloading doesn't take that long.

We had this same discussion about PA's ML deer seasons on a recent thread here on the forum. Several of us called the Game commission for clarification.
The replies from the PA Fish & Game folks is that in the early Muzzleloader season you can use any muzzleloader be it flintlock, caplock, or inline over 45 caliber and you can also carry any ML pistol .50 caliber or larger at the same time.

In the late Muzzleloader season in January you can hunt with one 45 caliber or larger flintlock rifle or one 50 caliber or larger Flintlock pistol but not both at the same.

In either, actually any PA hunting season you can carry your favorite concealed carry handgun as long as you have your CCW permit.

Why ! I gave up trying to apply logic to any government agency long ago.

Thanks.
O.R.

 

[Cliffdweller]

We had this same discussion about PA's ML deer seasons on a recent thread here on the forum. Several of us called the Game commission for clarification.
The replies from the PA Fish & Game folks is that in the early Muzzleloader season you can use any muzzleloader be it flintlock, caplock, or inline over 45 caliber and you can also carry any ML pistol .50 caliber or larger at the same time.

In the late Muzzleloader season in January you can hunt with one 45 caliber or larger flintlock rifle or one 50 caliber or larger Flintlock pistol but not both at the same.

In either, actually any PA hunting season you can carry your favorite concealed carry handgun as long as you have your CCW permit.

Why ! I gave up trying to apply logic to any government agency long ago.

Thanks.
O.R.

Weird, an early and late season hmmmm. We do (now) have a 4 day muzzleloader only antlerless deer season before rifle season. I guess thats kind of the same

 

[Howard Pippin]

Kansas hunters can carry a modern cartridge handgun but they better not use it to hunt or dispatch a deer.

This discussion on whether you could carry a Sidearm during flintlock season got me wondering if I could do so in Montana during their special nine-day muzzleloader season, so today I contacted my local fish and wildlife and Parks office and you can, So the answer said, anything up to the size of a howitzer. We all know you cannot use said firearm to dispatch your game.
Squint

 

[Bushfire]

Jeez, reading through this thread some of you guys I'm sure would complain if you won the lottery because you'd need to drive down the street to pick up the cheque.

Maybe some of you should move down here to my state. Enjoy a 12 month deer season with no tag limits and no weapon specific seasons. You could walk into the woods with enough centrefire barrels hanging off your person you'd be mistaken for a porcupine.
Of course you'd get sick of it real quick because everyone else is in the same boat.

I wish we had archery and muzzleloader seasons, and a closed deer season again. When things are made easier for you they're made easier for everyone else too. That's why places I used to go under strict seasons where you'd regularly see 20 deer ten years ago you're now lucky to see one.

 

[Zutt-man]

I have not read through the 7 page thread, so forgive me if I’ve missed a point or two.

Fat guess: they’re trying to limit illegal activity.

For example: In Kansas (my home state) it is legal to open carry. A .22 is illegal to take a deer with due to legal caliber restrictions, BUT as a deer hunter you it is lawful to carry it as a sidearm if you’re deer hunting. Another example, which may or may not be exclusive to Kansas… it is legal to spotlight at night. Because you can legally open carry in Kansas, it is legal to have a gun in the vehicle when doing so. As it was described to me via wardens… “if you want to spotlight, that is fine. If you have a gun in the truck doing so, great on ya! If that gun is loaded? I’m going to have so many questions that make you’re wife wonder why you’re not home yet.”

 

[Zutt-man]

Weird, an early and late season hmmmm. We do (now) have a 4 day muzzleloader only antlerless deer season before rifle season. I guess thats kind of the same

When is the muzzleloader season? There may be a good reason behind the season.

For instance (using my home state of Kansas again): We’ve instituted a ‘Pre-Rut Antlerless Season’ for 3 days in October. Generally the 2nd week of October, all legal firearms that meet regulations are legal for use. Helps prevent pregnant does from getting shot in December-January

 

[Kansas Jake]

I still wonder why the Kansas muzzleloader season is in the middle of September when few fields are harvested and the temperatures can be 90 degrees. We are only about 2+ months away from rut.

 

[Zutt-man]

I still wonder why the Kansas muzzleloader season is in the middle of September when few fields are harvested and the temperatures can be 90 degrees. We are only about 2+ months away from rut.

Harvest is coming earlier every year. I will say, harvesting a mature whitetail in Eastern KS with a muzzleloader is no easy feat.

 

[mkabe]

I still wonder why the Kansas muzzleloader season is in the middle of September when few fields are harvested and the temperatures can be 90 degrees. We are only about 2+ months away from rut.

I wonder that too and I’m from Kansas! To darn HOT !

 

[Zutt-man]

I wonder that too and I’m from Kansas! To darn HOT !

Those evening hunts on a green food source can be productive, especially on a cold front, though

 

[Cliffdweller]

I still wonder why the Kansas muzzleloader season is in the middle of September when few fields are harvested and the temperatures can be 90 degrees. We are only about 2+ months away from rut.

I still wonder why the Kansas muzzleloader season is in the middle of September when few fields are harvested and the temperatures can be 90 degrees. We are only about 2+ months away from rut.

Wow sept? Here in Vt. we have an antlerless deer season October 26 through the 29th for muzzleloader only. But the regular muzzleloading season isn’t until December.

 

[QuinnTheEskimo]

I think in a lot of states the muzzleloader seasons were the last to be created so they wound up at odd times, either early or late. From what I’ve seen, the archery folks are the best organized and don’t want to give up any of their days or share them with any sort of firearms.

 

[user 48702]

In Alabama, you can carry a handgun for self protection from man or beast while hunting, but you cannot use it to dispatch game during bow or muzzle loading season. One reason they amended the rules several years ago, was because more and more incidents had been occurring where a hunter was attacked by wild dogs in the woods or two legged critters you might encounter who were up to no good. There are many more women who are hitting the woods during archery season these days and I'm sure it's of great comfort to have a sidearm for self protection in case they run into some "Deliverance" movie types out in the wilderness. We have packs of wild dogs and plenty of coyotes in our area, fortunately, I've never run into dogs in the woods. However; several years ago, we had been having problems with wild dogs killing our goats in our thirty acre pasture. One morning, I heard several dogs barking, grabbed an old 97 Winchester I had hanging on the wall. Once I got into the pasture, I found three large dogs mauling a goat. Before I could get close enough to take a shot, they turned and two headed for my Dad, who was unarmed, and the pit bull was headed in my direction. Thankfully, I had the 97 loaded with #4 buck. I shot toward the two that were running for my Dad, and they ran off. It took two shots to drop the pit bull, which finally fell less than ten feet in front of my position, and he definitely meant me harm. I would hate to think of what would have happened, especially since my Dad was on blood thinners. All total, over the course of a week we lost 16 goats to the wild dogs (6 that morning). Before the killing started, we had 31 goats.

Check out the story of a hunter in Georgia who was unarmed at the end of deer season while relocating his stands. About two months ago, he was attacked by three large dogs, two pit bulls and another mixed breed. The man was lucky to make it out alive. Luckily, he was able to get to the emergency room where he had 298 puncture wounds and lacerations, of which seven lacerations required stitches.

Wild Dogs Attack in Georgia

 

[Zutt-man]

In Alabama, you can carry a handgun for self protection from man or beast while hunting, but you cannot use it to dispatch game during bow or muzzle loading season. One reason they amended the rules several years ago, was because more and more incidents had been occurring where a hunter was attacked by wild dogs in the woods or two legged critters you might encounter who were up to no good. There are many more women who are hitting the woods during archery season these days and I'm sure it's of great comfort to have a sidearm for self protection in case they run into some "Deliverance" movie types out in the wilderness. We have packs of wild dogs and plenty of coyotes in our area, fortunately, I've never run into dogs in the woods. However; several years ago, we had been having problems with wild dogs killing our goats in our thirty acre pasture. One morning, I heard several dogs barking, grabbed an old 97 Winchester I had hanging on the wall. Once I got into the pasture, I found three large dogs mauling a goat. Before I could get close enough to take a shot, they turned and two headed for my Dad, who was unarmed, and the pit bull was headed in my direction. Thankfully, I had the 97 loaded with #4 buck. I shot toward the two that were running for my Dad, and they ran off. It took two shots to drop the pit bull, which finally fell less than ten feet in front of my position, and he definitely meant me harm. I would hate to think of what would have happened, especially since my Dad was on blood thinners. All total, over the course of a week we lost 16 goats to the wild dogs (6 that morning). Before the killing started, we had 31 goats.

Check out the story of a hunter in Georgia who was unarmed at the end of deer season while relocating his stands. About two months ago, he was attacked by three large dogs, two pit bulls and another mixed breed. The man was lucky to make it out alive. Luckily, he was able to get to the emergency room where he had 298 puncture wounds and lacerations, of which seven lacerations required stitches.

Wild Dogs Attack in Georgia

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I just showed this to my wife a few days ago. Glad the owner is facing charges

 

[user 48702]

Thanks, I knew about this story, but didn't know charges had been filed.

 

[Zutt-man]

Wow sept? Here in Vt. we have an antlerless deer season October 26 through the 29th for muzzleloader only. But the regular muzzleloading season isn’t until December.

Generally starts the 2nd or 3rd Monday in September and lasts for 2 weeks. You can use them again during the PreRut Antlerless season at the end of October, the general firearms season at the end of November/first of December, and in the antlerless season January.

 

[Zutt-man]

Wow sept? Here in Vt. we have an antlerless deer season October 26 through the 29th for muzzleloader only. But the regular muzzleloading season isn’t until December.

Generally starts the 2nd or 3rd Monday in September and lasts for 2 weeks. You can use them again during the PreRut Antlerless season at the end of October, the general firearms season at the end of November/first of December, and in the antlerless season January.

 

[Cliffdweller]

In Alabama, you can carry a handgun for self protection from man or beast while hunting, but you cannot use it to dispatch game during bow or muzzle loading season. One reason they amended the rules several years ago, was because more and more incidents had been occurring where a hunter was attacked by wild dogs in the woods or two legged critters you might encounter who were up to no good. There are many more women who are hitting the woods during archery season these days and I'm sure it's of great comfort to have a sidearm for self protection in case they run into some "Deliverance" movie types out in the wilderness. We have packs of wild dogs and plenty of coyotes in our area, fortunately, I've never run into dogs in the woods. However; several years ago, we had been having problems with wild dogs killing our goats in our thirty acre pasture. One morning, I heard several dogs barking, grabbed an old 97 Winchester I had hanging on the wall. Once I got into the pasture, I found three large dogs mauling a goat. Before I could get close enough to take a shot, they turned and two headed for my Dad, who was unarmed, and the pit bull was headed in my direction. Thankfully, I had the 97 loaded with #4 buck. I shot toward the two that were running for my Dad, and they ran off. It took two shots to drop the pit bull, which finally fell less than ten feet in front of my position, and he definitely meant me harm. I would hate to think of what would have happened, especially since my Dad was on blood thinners. All total, over the course of a week we lost 16 goats to the wild dogs (6 that morning). Before the killing started, we had 31 goats.

Check out the story of a hunter in Georgia who was unarmed at the end of deer season while relocating his stands. About two months ago, he was attacked by three large dogs, two pit bulls and another mixed breed. The man was lucky to make it out alive. Luckily, he was able to get to the emergency room where he had 298 puncture wounds and lacerations, of which seven lacerations required stitches.

Wild Dogs Attack in Georgia

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Damn! Deliverance movie types