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After reading about deals some have made recently at pawn shops I’d been wanting to stop by one myself. On the way home for Thanksgiving I finally stopped at a small gun/pawn/antique shop in a little town I pass through. He only had one muzzleloader and it was an old Traditions Deerhunter percussion in .50, 1:48, with a $99.99 tag on it. Wasn’t anything I was interested in for myself so I continued on home. Got to thinking that a small, light rifle like that would be a good grandkids gun to introduce them to BP. So on my way back to the camp today I stopped by to take a second look with my good reading glasses, a good penlight, and a shiny AAA battery. I checked it over, lock and trigger felt good, stock in good shape, the barrel is dirty but no signs of any pitting, rifling look ok too.
And I checked to make sure it wasn’t loaded. Tried to buy it for $90 out the door, ended up paying $100 out the door. So that’s about $92 plus tax. I’ll take it apart and start getting the barrel cleaned this afternoon and then tune the lock and trigger. It’s kinda an ugly little thing but at least I won’t feel bad if I have to trim the stock to fit the kids.

Do you think it was worth the money?
 

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Sounds like a worthy endeavor. What can you buy for a Benjamin these days? I stopped at a McDonald's for the first time in years, a quarter pounder with cheese cost me $5.70. In my home state it would have been 10% more with sales tax.

The first time out with kids when the smoke rolls back and they look at you wide eyed with a big grin that gun will become priceless.

Very cool idea.
 
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After reading about deals some have made recently at pawn shops I’d been wanting to stop by one myself. On the way home for Thanksgiving I finally stopped at a small gun/pawn/antique shop in a little town I pass through. He only had one muzzleloader and it was an old Traditions Deerhunter percussion in .50, 1:48, with a $99.99 tag on it. Wasn’t anything I was interested in for myself so I continued on home. Got to thinking that a small, light rifle like that would be a good grandkids gun to introduce them to BP. So on my way back to the camp today I stopped by to take a second look with my good reading glasses, a good penlight, and a shiny AAA battery. I checked it over, lock and trigger felt good, stock in good shape, the barrel is dirty but no signs of any pitting, rifling look ok too.
And I checked to make sure it wasn’t loaded. Tried to buy it for $90 out the door, ended up paying $100 out the door. So that’s about $92 plus tax. I’ll take it apart and start getting the barrel cleaned this afternoon and then tune the lock and trigger. It’s kinda an ugly little thing but at least I won’t feel bad if I have to trim the stock to fit the kids.

Do you think it was worth the money?
Good Thing you bought it cause I was going to message you for the name of the shop 🤣
 
Well I got the rifle stripped. Luckily nothing unusual showed up. From the look of the screw heads I don’t think this one has been apart too many times if at all. There was a little surface rust on the barrel under the bolster and a little surface rust on the inside lock plate by the bolster. There was no rust on the barrel were it was bedded. I sprayed some Kroil around the nipple and some inside the barrel, after a bit I filled the barrel with Hopps #9. I’ll just let that sit awhile. I’ll strip and re-blue the barrel with Jax Black. Next I’ll disassemble the lock and trigger and start polishing.
 

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Pawn shops and auction sites, ala eBay, are great places to keep an eye on when you're on the hunt. Or if you just like to be surprised by a deal!

Pawn shops were part of my early education. I did a career in the Navy so had a lot of exposure to certain establishment's always found outside the gates of every military base. I learned about pawn shops and "buy me drink" jiggle bars.

I'll leave the bar discussion for another thread! Early 80’s I had my eye on a a pump 12 gauge. The shop wanted $75 and wouldn't dicker. A few months passed and like a lot of the bigger, high flow, shops they would hold auction's (remember them? Live in person. Sitting in folding chairs with little paddles?) to clear stuff out.

Well I got that pump, a Mossberg 500. I don't think it had a box of shell's run through it, my winning bid? $27.00

I've had some very recent experiences setting up BP for my "other life." I've become bilateral with homes in Sitka Alaska and Yuma Arizona. Discussion's are ongoing about which one is "home." But it does present an opportunity for duplication!🤓

Plus I know how this discussion is going to end.

I've had my T/C .54 Renegade since I built the kit in '81 and thats what I wanted for Yuma. Do you think I could find a kit for $125 like the one I got in '81? Who changed shite without asking me?

List a kit built T/C .54 Renegade for $400 online and it sells before you can lift your finger off the enter key. So I did what terminally unemployed old farts do in this day of world wide communication and information. I trolled the web.

Just like the Man in Black did with his Cadillac I bought it one piece at a time. Mostly through eBay and other auction sites I bought all the parts and pieces to build a .54 caliber "Renegade." I'm heading down to Yuma for the 'season' this Saturday. I'll see if just like Johnny had to, I'll need an "A'Dapter Kit!"

Total for my BP Cadillac, including shipping, for (I'm hoping!) all the pieces to put a rifle together; $190.00 I'd say about a third were bought outright, a third for offer made and accepted and the final third to dickering.

My recent Pawn shop "Find" was accidental in a way. I was looking for a .54 Percussion pistol with an idea to get into some BP competitions when I'm down in the dry place. Plus, what's cooler than .54 hand cannon!

Once again, sticker shock, rarity and 'not quite what im looking for was depressing. I mean, I have the best permission slip ever in my 'which is home discussions.' Nothing worse than having the money and approval (which could expire any minute!) and finding your caps are wet.

I could of easily afforded to and dropped $300-400 for my pistol. But old visions of prices kept my safety on. My second kit was a CVA Philadelphia Derringer. $28 back then, $200 now. But I was nicely surprised when I asked a seller on GunBrokers a question.

The seller was offering a Lyman's .54 caliber Plains pistol. Asking price/starting bid $279 plus $50 shipping plus FFL fees. (I know, I know. I'll 'splain soon.) So here I am looking at over $300 for a used gun with poor quality photos on a web site known for overpriced and sometimes shady sellers. But I figured I'd better start shaking the bushes.

I sent an email asking the seller about condition of the barrel, history, kit built etc. I got a reply a couple of days later from a real nice lady. I was told that the seller was a pawn shop in non-Chicago Illinois. They had no answers to my questions, they're a friggin pawn shop after all. Replied thanking her for her time. Unfortunately the pistol was what I was in the market for but too spendy.

Almost immediately a reply came back asking what I could afford? I used the wife, gave me a under $200 budget, excuse. (God bless those tossed under the bus and never knowing it happened. Amen.) I wrote back with a $215, shipping included, offer.

She came back with let me check with the boss and a quick follow up with a 'boss accepted' reply. (I think she just possum'd up on me!) Another great thing was that we left GunBrokers behind after the first few emails.

Now the only issue was the FFL which everyone on this forum knows isn't required for the method we use for spending our children's inheritance. But this is an Illinois pawn shop and the lady I was dealing with knew that FFL shipping wasn't required. But the 90 y.o. owner required all firearms to be shipped FFL. I figured he had a run in with Elliot Ness back in the day.

On my end the FFL was no biggie. My neighbors, Ken and Charly of 5 Shot Firearms, run a shop out of their home and I've been doing business with them since I retired (became terminally unemployable) in '15. Because I'm a retired member, in questionable standing, from Uncle Sam's Canoe Club. I've never paid more than $10 for transfer and reciept service. Besides I entertain them!

So when I contacted them and asked them if the could accept a "soon to be banned assault firearm", a firearm that could jeopardize their FFL licenses!" They had no fear and accepted the challenge! True Americans these folks are!

Three or four days latter I get an email, unfortunately lost somewhere, from Ken. I believe it acknowledged the receipt of my "soon to be banned assault firearm!" But there were also a lot of "What?'s?", Laughing emojis, references to me being a nickname for Richard and my resemblance to a humans lowest sphincter.

Later contact with Ken I got his opinion that the Lyman's Plains pistol was in "great shape" and I got a "heck of a deal."

In my long winded way it comes down to, you got a "heck of a deal." Enjoy and boast! A "heck of a deal" is not complete without rubbing your buddies nose's in it!🤣
 
Pawn shops and auction sites, ala eBay, are great places to keep an eye on when you're on the hunt. Or if you just like to be surprised by a deal!

Pawn shops were part of my early education. I did a career in the Navy so had a lot of exposure to certain establishment's always found outside the gates of every military base. I learned about pawn shops and "buy me drink" jiggle bars.

I'll leave the bar discussion for another thread! Early 80’s I had my eye on a a pump 12 gauge. The shop wanted $75 and wouldn't dicker. A few months passed and like a lot of the bigger, high flow, shops they would hold auction's (remember them? Live in person. Sitting in folding chairs with little paddles?) to clear stuff out.

Well I got that pump, a Mossberg 500. I don't think it had a box of shell's run through it, my winning bid? $27.00

I've had some very recent experiences setting up BP for my "other life." I've become bilateral with homes in Sitka Alaska and Yuma Arizona. Discussion's are ongoing about which one is "home." But it does present an opportunity for duplication!🤓

Plus I know how this discussion is going to end.

I've had my T/C .54 Renegade since I built the kit in '81 and thats what I wanted for Yuma. Do you think I could find a kit for $125 like the one I got in '81? Who changed shite without asking me?

List a kit built T/C .54 Renegade for $400 online and it sells before you can lift your finger off the enter key. So I did what terminally unemployed old farts do in this day of world wide communication and information. I trolled the web.

Just like the Man in Black did with his Cadillac I bought it one piece at a time. Mostly through eBay and other auction sites I bought all the parts and pieces to build a .54 caliber "Renegade." I'm heading down to Yuma for the 'season' this Saturday. I'll see if just like Johnny had to, I'll need an "A'Dapter Kit!"

Total for my BP Cadillac, including shipping, for (I'm hoping!) all the pieces to put a rifle together; $190.00 I'd say about a third were bought outright, a third for offer made and accepted and the final third to dickering.

My recent Pawn shop "Find" was accidental in a way. I was looking for a .54 Percussion pistol with an idea to get into some BP competitions when I'm down in the dry place. Plus, what's cooler than .54 hand cannon!

Once again, sticker shock, rarity and 'not quite what im looking for was depressing. I mean, I have the best permission slip ever in my 'which is home discussions.' Nothing worse than having the money and approval (which could expire any minute!) and finding your caps are wet.

I could of easily afforded to and dropped $300-400 for my pistol. But old visions of prices kept my safety on. My second kit was a CVA Philadelphia Derringer. $28 back then, $200 now. But I was nicely surprised when I asked a seller on GunBrokers a question.

The seller was offering a Lyman's .54 caliber Plains pistol. Asking price/starting bid $279 plus $50 shipping plus FFL fees. (I know, I know. I'll 'splain soon.) So here I am looking at over $300 for a used gun with poor quality photos on a web site known for overpriced and sometimes shady sellers. But I figured I'd better start shaking the bushes.

I sent an email asking the seller about condition of the barrel, history, kit built etc. I got a reply a couple of days later from a real nice lady. I was told that the seller was a pawn shop in non-Chicago Illinois. They had no answers to my questions, they're a friggin pawn shop after all. Replied thanking her for her time. Unfortunately the pistol was what I was in the market for but too spendy.

Almost immediately a reply came back asking what I could afford? I used the wife, gave me a under $200 budget, excuse. (God bless those tossed under the bus and never knowing it happened. Amen.) I wrote back with a $215, shipping included, offer.

She came back with let me check with the boss and a quick follow up with a 'boss accepted' reply. (I think she just possum'd up on me!) Another great thing was that we left GunBrokers behind after the first few emails.

Now the only issue was the FFL which everyone on this forum knows isn't required for the method we use for spending our children's inheritance. But this is an Illinois pawn shop and the lady I was dealing with knew that FFL shipping wasn't required. But the 90 y.o. owner required all firearms to be shipped FFL. I figured he had a run in with Elliot Ness back in the day.

On my end the FFL was no biggie. My neighbors, Ken and Charly of 5 Shot Firearms, run a shop out of their home and I've been doing business with them since I retired (became terminally unemployable) in '15. Because I'm a retired member, in questionable standing, from Uncle Sam's Canoe Club. I've never paid more than $10 for transfer and reciept service. Besides I entertain them!

So when I contacted them and asked them if the could accept a "soon to be banned assault firearm", a firearm that could jeopardize their FFL licenses!" They had no fear and accepted the challenge! True Americans these folks are!

Three or four days latter I get an email, unfortunately lost somewhere, from Ken. I believe it acknowledged the receipt of my "soon to be banned assault firearm!" But there were also a lot of "What?'s?", Laughing emojis, references to me being a nickname for Richard and my resemblance to a humans lowest sphincter.

Later contact with Ken I got his opinion that the Lyman's Plains pistol was in "great shape" and I got a "heck of a deal."

In my long winded way it comes down to, you got a "heck of a deal." Enjoy and boast! A "heck of a deal" is not complete without rubbing your buddies nose's in it!🤣
This reply you made totally made my day. Excellent wording 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 
Sounds like a worthy endeavor. What can you buy for a Benjamin these days? I stopped at a McDonald's for the first time in years, a quarter pounder with cheese cost me $5.70. In my home state it would have been 10% more with sales tax.

The first time out with kids when the smoke rolls back and they look at you wide eyed with a big grin that gun will become priceless.

Very cool idea.
That’s the way I looked at. At my age I well remember when $100 was a lot of money, but while I was home for Thanksgiving I got to thinking about how quickly the money slips away on just stuff. Of course there’s a limit on the money, but I figured it would be money well spent as long as it wasn’t junk.
 
Good deal, both of you. They are fine hunting and shooting guns. Nothing wrong with them at all. I don't get why folks are down on them. They make meat and reliably so.

A grandkid will be damn happy to have it and if they don't, hell you can adopt me. I promise I will appreciate everything you buy and give me. https://media.tenor.com/AQz3_zaiD14AAAAM/hysterical-laughter.gif
 
After reading about deals some have made recently at pawn shops I’d been wanting to stop by one myself. On the way home for Thanksgiving I finally stopped at a small gun/pawn/antique shop in a little town I pass through. He only had one muzzleloader and it was an old Traditions Deerhunter percussion in .50, 1:48, with a $99.99 tag on it. Wasn’t anything I was interested in for myself so I continued on home. Got to thinking that a small, light rifle like that would be a good grandkids gun to introduce them to BP. So on my way back to the camp today I stopped by to take a second look with my good reading glasses, a good penlight, and a shiny AAA battery. I checked it over, lock and trigger felt good, stock in good shape, the barrel is dirty but no signs of any pitting, rifling look ok too.
And I checked to make sure it wasn’t loaded. Tried to buy it for $90 out the door, ended up paying $100 out the door. So that’s about $92 plus tax. I’ll take it apart and start getting the barrel cleaned this afternoon and then tune the lock and trigger. It’s kinda an ugly little thing but at least I won’t feel bad if I have to trim the stock to fit the kids.

Do you think it was worth the money?
I think you did well!!
 
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