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There is a revolver in the for sale forum that is described as a like new in box. Has scratches and bunged up screw head and has been fired. How is that like new in box? It is priced like a new gun. I don't get it. I have seen other instances of used revolvers for sale that are well used and are advertised as priced as a new gun. Is it me? Is it because of Covid inflation pricing? Just venting I guess.
 
There is a revolver in the for sale forum that is described as a like new in box. Has scratches and bunged up screw head and has been fired. How is that like new in box? It is priced like a new gun. I don't get it. I have seen other instances of used revolvers for sale that are well used and are advertised as priced as a new gun. Is it me? Is it because of Covid inflation pricing? Just venting I guess.
It's a lot like horse trading.
Depends if you're buying or selling.
You study what you want, wait till you see it, then jump on it.
 
If it is the one I think it is, the asking price is roughly $140 less than a new one, and they are not in stock. Keep in mind that these days most places are charging tax even if you're out of state, plus shipping is going to be roughly $30 so that's $80 on top of the Taylor's list price of $507. Used gun" $450 shipped. New gun=$590+/- shipped, if they had it. I bought a small part from Taylor's. It was $16 for shipping and handling. It could have gone First Class USPS for $4.00.
Is the gun you are referring to worth $140 less and the ability to not wait until Uberti catches up with their orders? That's up to you. Plus, it's an asking price, not firm.
 
Were they new? Or used?
Sorry, I meant to say used. Both were modern handguns. My friend and gun dealer whom I used to send it to, thought one of the two modern handguns had been fired less than 100 rounds. It certainly was in excellent condition.
 
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I have seen similar situations where you could buy the gun brand new, and it’s used and in new shape but they are asking the same price as a new one. Seems unlikely anyone would buy it. Because some guns are hard to find new right now, people are trying to get more for the used ones just because it’s simply available. Offer what you think it’s worth and move on if they don’t like the offer
 
I was at two gun shows this past weekend. One was a regular show and the other a heritage arms show. I know and have known many of the guys there for many years. They mostly all said they are getting less stuff in to resell and for the most part paying more for a lot of the used stuff so they have to jack the price up.
 
There are standards (NRA?) which, at this moment, escape me that clearly discern what the various conditions mean. Reputable sellers use these to market their guns. "NIB", for instance, means new, in the original factory box, unfired, with no marks, dents, scratches, etc.

"Like new" has no meaning to me. To start with, it's either "NEW" or "Used" - even if unfired. Specimens in a store's showcase are often never fired but have obviously been handled, cycled, etc. Been burned on this once. Won't happen to me again. "New" revolvers don't have rotation marks on cylinders, for example. Nipples aren't mushroomed and screws aren't buggered when they leave a factory.

Even some modern guns that come with one or two expended cartridges don't show signs of wear that I could discern. It's a buyer's game, but getting all your money back won't happen due to shipping costs.
 
90% of the used guns I see listed are "unfired" or "appears unfired". It seems most of the black powder guns produced in the last 50 years were taken out of the box and hung on the wall. "Never been out in the rain" (or sunshine). :)
 
There is a revolver in the for sale forum that is described as a like new in box. Has scratches and bunged up screw head and has been fired. How is that like new in box? It is priced like a new gun. I don't get it. I have seen other instances of used revolvers for sale that are well used and are advertised as priced as a new gun. Is it me? Is it because of Covid inflation pricing? Just venting I guess.
Dang! I hope you’re not talking about mine! ;-)

It’s inflation caused by Covid, Biden, Harris, Putin or a mean tweet from Donald Trump. Take your pick…
 
Dang! I hope you’re not talking about mine! ;-)

It’s inflation caused by Covid, Biden, Harris, Putin or a mean tweet from Donald Trump. Take your pick…
If I hadn't just ordered a Kibler kit, I would have have bought that pistol from ya. Been on my short list for a long while.
Maybe another one will be around when I save up enough Bens.
 
Dang! I hope you’re not talking about mine! ;-)

It’s inflation caused by Covid, Biden, Harris, Putin or a mean tweet from Donald Trump. Take your pick…
Price of everything has gone up. It is amazing looking at a lot of the blackpowder shooting supply places and a lot of their stuff is marked sale pending, on order, or out of stock.
 
New in the box or NIB should mean exactly that new and unfired , it is still second hand , which can cause warranty problems, and if in current manufacture should be sold for approximately wholesale price , unless it has a rarity value .
Used or like new is in the eye of the beholder , both seller and buyer , invariably the seller will have a better view of the firearm than the buyer .
Unless the firearm is rare , not uncommon , the value depends on what the buyer is prepared to pay and the seller prepared to accept .
I had a Uberti Hawken , not rare but uncommon , as it was a modern made replica it is not collectable unless coveted by a Hawken hoarder 😁 . I sold mine for slightly more than I paid for it 30 odd years ago , it was in good used condition ,metal work and bore used but excellent , stock with a few dings and marks . With inflation etc I was happy with the price I got and so was the buyer .
If you are going to buy a second hand firearm , check the wood for dings, fit , finish and repairs , look down the bore and along the outside of the barrel to see if there any bulges or dents , and that the rifling is fine . Most importantly check the screw heads , check for burrs caused by screwdrivers which don't fit , make sure the screws are all the same age and design .Screws are easily replaced but damaged ones do represent some butcher has been at the gun , . look for marks on the metal surfaces which just should not be there . In the case of a shotgun take the barrel out of the stock and tap the barrel with a screwdriver handle or some such , the barrel should ring like a tubular bell . If the seller wont let you do these things walk away , unless you don't mind the dings and marks and just have to have the gun , then that is up to you , use small fixable faults, like burred screws, as a bargaining tool
 
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