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The point I ineffectively was trying to make was that all long guns (muzzle loaders or others) are recommended to be stored muzzle down.

Recommended by whom, and why. I think this is another "muzzleloader myth". Have stored mine butt down for 45 years with no adverse problems (but I don't leave lots of oil in the barrel, just light coat of a high tech lube).
 
I store my trade-gun "horizontally", on gun-hooks mounted on the wall.

Luckily, the shape of the stock and foreend is enough to naturally point the muzzle down, an inch or so below the level of the breech, so any oil in the bore naturally runs down and out of the bore rather than puddling at the breechplug.
 
Guys":
Just my $0.02. I've NEVER seen a gun shop store (display) their BP rifles in any manner other than butt down/ muzzle up in a gun rack? I assume,( I know, I know....NEVER Assume) they know what they're doing? :dunno::rolleyes:
Again...just my $0.02.
God bless:
Two Feathers

I don't know about everyone else but I came to this forum for answers and wound up with more questions? I do enjoy reading the post here and have learned a lot and also had a few laughs! I remember my mother,s statement, "Some people will swallow a Camel but gag on a gnat"! I put my sock on the right foot first and anyone that doesn't is doing it wrong! Pun intended!
 
After I clean my barrels, I just give them a good coat of Bore Butter and store them in the safe muzzle up. All I have to do before shooting is to run a couple dry patches through the barrel and if it has a patent breech with a recessed chamber, I put a patch through a slotted tip and wrap it around the tip to dry the bore butter out of the breech. Three patches and it's good to go. I have used the bore butter for many years this way and have never had a problem with it.
 
I don't know about everyone else but I came to this forum for answers and wound up with more questions? I do enjoy reading the post here and have learned a lot and also had a few laughs! I remember my mother,s statement, "Some people will swallow a Camel but gag on a gnat"! I put my sock on the right foot first and anyone that doesn't is doing it wrong! Pun intended!
LME:
I'm terribly sorry if I caused you any undue stress with my comment. I was just trying to add an observation? Sometimes more questions lead to better answers? Again...just an observation.
God bless:
Two Feathers
 
LME:
I'm terribly sorry if I caused you any undue stress with my comment. I was just trying to add an observation? Sometimes more questions lead to better answers? Again...just an observation.
God bless:
Two Feathers
My post was not intended to bash you at all and your post did not stress me in the least, as a matter of fact I loved your post! I have worked in a gun store and as you alluded to all our rifles were stored standin up with the stock down, muzzle up. I Think, for some unknown reason human beings like to re-invent the wheel? I go by the old saying, "If it ain't broke don't fix it" ! It don't think we are going."Woke" ?
 
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My post was not intended to bash you at all and your post did not stress me in the least, as a matter of fact I loved your post! I have worked in a gun store and as you alluded to all our rifles were stored standin up with the stock down, muzzle up. I Think, for some unknown reason human beings like to re-invent the wheel? I go by the old saying, "If it ain't broke don't fix it" !
ABSOLUTELY!!! Couldn't agree more. We "humans"? LOVE reinventing the wheel and reasons to peacefully debate its usefulness. :thumb:;)
I worked for a (primarily) BP gun shop in the 70's, same deal.
Glad I didn't stress you. :thumb: ;)
Thanks for your support.
God bless:
Two Feathers
 
If long guns are suppose to be stored muzzle down so that lubricant (wonder lube, oils, etc.) do not collect in to the the firing mechanism and/or collect on the wood and cause other problems, why are gun safes and cases design for the stock down and muzzle up? I cannot figure this one out. Any ideas?

There is no problem with the design of gun cases, safes or storing the gun muzzle up.. The problem is with how people clean and protect their guns for storage.
 
This brings to mind a song from the late 1960's. "Different strokes for different folks".....
Unlike the earlier picture, I don't have the free wall space to hang all of my wood stocked rifles and pistols. Some are in a rack on the wall, one is standing in the corner (left hand flintlock) and the rest are in the safe. The ones on the wall are too long and will not fit inside the safe.
 
I store half of my guns with muzzles up and half with muzzles down. Mostly because it saves space.

Robby, if you turn that sanding machine on and use it, does your wife have to spend the next week dusting off all of your rifles and books?
 
I store half of my guns with muzzles up and half with muzzles down. Mostly because it saves space.

Robby, if you turn that sanding machine on and use it, does your wife have to spend the next week dusting off all of your rifles and books?

I thought the same thing. Figure he lays drop cloths over everything. I know when building my bows and I use that thing even with a vacuum stuff gets all over everything!!!

RM
 
I have also stored my muzzleloaders both up and down. IMO, if there is so much oil in “any” type of rifle that it could seep into the stock, it over-oiled. I would give a note of caution about full-stock muzzleloaders stored horizontal on pegs. It’s important to make sure that the barrel with the contact on a ramrod tube that is mounted directly to the barrel/escutcheon, and not the wooden ramrod or bare fore-end wood that is forward of the entry pipe. Over time, the pressure of the heavy barrel on the ramrod or bare wood will compress the grain and weaken the wood at that point of contact. In the case of the ramrod it will have a high likelihood of breaking at that point of contact. Learned this the hard way many years ago.
 
I store half of my guns with muzzles up and half with muzzles down. Mostly because it saves space.

Robby, if you turn that sanding machine on and use it, does your wife have to spend the next week dusting off all of your rifles and books?
Nah, she hardly ever enters my inner sanctum sanctorum, usually only when she can't remove the cap from a jar or the like, but she does think its very cool. Thats my shop, I open the windows and blow the dust out once a week, clean, wax the guns four times a year and treat all the leather goods twice a year.
A labor of love.
Robby
 
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