Renegade Used Price?

[Down East]

Wondering if anyone has some insight as to what a fair price would be for a used TC Renegade .50 in very good condition? Going to be looking at one in a few days and wanted to get an idea what price range would be considered fair. Don't know anything more on the rifle yet. Thanks.

 

[GregCSarver]

$350 to $400

 

[deermanok]

There are or were several posted on the for sale board here. Percussion or flintlock? Flinters are more money. $ 350.00 to 600.00 is a ballpark range.

 

[bang]

Just got a 54 for $277plus govt.

 

[Down East]

thanks guys. It's a perc cap forgot to mention

 

[Jamie from Alberta]

I paid $250 CAD. It came with TC peep sight.
she’s a shooter!

 

[bubba.50]

I don’t know if you’d call it panic buyiing or what but people are paying way too much for these things. A good shooter grade Renegade is a $200.00 to $250.00 gun. A really nice one, maybe up to $350.00. It would have to come with extras or have triple A walnut in the stock before l’d give more for it.

An exception to this rule would be the 58cal Big Boar. That one would be up to maybe 500 depending on condition.

 

[necchi]

I don’t know if you’d call it panic buyiing or what but people are paying way too much for these things. A good shooter grade Renegade is a $200.00 to $250.00 gun. A really nice one, maybe up to $350.00. It would have to come with extras or have triple A walnut in the stock before l’d give more for it.

An exception to this rule would be the 58cal Big Boar. That one would be up to maybe 500 depending on condition.

All of what Dennis said is the absolute truth.
It's a completely confounding what folks are thinking now-a-days,,$600 for a Renegade? Wow!

 

[Down East]

I'd agree with Bubba. Was watching some TC's on Gunbroker and they going up over $400 with shipping etc. especially near auction ends. I'm looking to pay no more than $275 for this and will still feel like I overpaid. Thanks guys for all the input.

 

[Prairieofthedog]

I don’t know if you’d call it panic buyiing or what but people are paying way too much for these things. A good shooter grade Renegade is a $200.00 to $250.00 gun. A really nice one, maybe up to $350.00. It would have to come with extras or have triple A walnut in the stock before l’d give more for it.

An exception to this rule would be the 58cal Big Boar. That one would be up to maybe 500 depending on condition.

What a man will pay and what they are going for are 2 different things LOL does that make sense? I agree with you on the price for a renegade,and some people are paying crazy prices for TC products. I respect your knowledge on TC's,but i have not seen a Big Boar go for less than $700 bucks in the last 5 years. I buy most my muzzleloaders at local gun auctions.With Covid most have went to online bidding and the feeding frenzy is crazy!

 

[dogfood]

Down East,
I imagine there might be a bit of price difference between the Renegade proper and the Renegade hunter (single trigger and plain trigger guard, like a New Englander).
Do you have a preference for one over the other?
-dgfd

 

[R.J.Bruce]

All of the "Usual Suspects" that purchase old T/C, Italian, & Spanish muzzleloading guns from estates/E-Bay for low prices to resell for profit as a formal business have recently added $75.00-$100.00 to their resale prices, especially for Thompson Center Hawkens & Renegades. And, I am talking about the sellers whose prices were in line with the above quotes in this thread. Supply & demand has driven the prices up $100.00 in just the past few months. Remember, that the portion of the 5-7 million new shooters that have joined the ranks of the previously stable 50 million shooters, that decided they wanted a traditional muzzleloader, are the ones JUMPING on these older, well made sidelocks. They don't see $450.00 as too much to pay for a well made, older gun with quality that simply cannot be matched by anything being sold today at that price point.

 

[Dale Lilly]

Geeeez ... if a used Renegade will bring $450, what will my nearly pristine Uberti, Santa Fe Hawken .54 bring ??????

 

[Down East]

Down East,
I imagine there might be a bit of price difference between the Renegade proper and the Renegade hunter (single trigger and plain trigger guard, like a New Englander).
Do you have a preference for one over the other?
-dgfd

I would prefer the double trigger and this one has, its a Renegade proper. I have a TC PA Hunter that really is a hunting gun, the rifling does not go all the way to the end of bore. SOmebody told me they made hunters like that to ease starting balls with a thumb, say. I learn something new every day.

 

[dogfood]

I would prefer the double trigger and this one has, its a Renegade proper. I have a TC PA Hunter that really is a hunting gun, the rifling does not go all the way to the end of bore. SOmebody told me they made hunters like that to ease starting balls with a thumb, say. I learn something new every day.

Yeah that was something they did in the late 90s i believe on a lot of their guns. Called it a Quick Load something or other and I've rarely heard a good thing about them. Interesting idea for conical shootings but didn't really pan out when the theoretical met the practical.
I have a PA hunter, myself, four digit serial number starting with a 7 and its rifling goes straight to the muzzle

 

[bubba.50]

What a man will pay and what they are going for are 2 different things LOL does that make sense? I agree with you on the price for a renegade,and some people are paying crazy prices for TC products. I respect your knowledge on TC's,but i have not seen a Big Boar go for less than $700 bucks in the last 5 years. I buy most my muzzleloaders at local gun auctions.With Covid most have went to online bidding and the feeding frenzy is crazy!

No argument here. I’ve seen Big Boars go for 7, 8, 9 hundred dollars. I’ve also seen 200 dollar Renegades and 250 dollar Hawkens go for 2 or 3 times what they’re worth.

But, the question asked wasn’t ‘what are they going for?’ The question was ‘what are they worth.’ And l stand by my answer.

 

[bubba.50]

All of what Dennis said is the absolute truth.
It's a completely confounding what folks are thinking now-a-days,,$600 for a Renegade? Wow!

Who’s Dennis?

 

[R.J.Bruce]

When the Renegade was new, what was its cost in contemporary dollars. Plus, taxes.

Then, convert those 1979, 1990, whatever dollars into pre-1964 U.S. silver dimes at the contemporary price of silver.

Now, fast forward to 2021. What are those exact same number of U.S. silver dimes worth RIGHT NOW?

That's what your Thompson Center Renegade is truly worth. Not, what you want it to be, but what it is worth in real money. Not, theoretical money, but something with true tangible worth.

 

[Down East]

Yeah that was something they did in the late 90s i believe on a lot of their guns. Called it a Quick Load something or other and I've rarely heard a good thing about them. Interesting idea for conical shootings but didn't really pan out when the theoretical met the practical.
I have a PA hunter, myself, four digit serial number starting with a 7 and its rifling goes straight to the muzzle

Didn't realize the earlier PA Hunts had the full rifling. It sacrifices a good deal of accuracy I would think, and with the 1:66 twist why they even thought of it is a little baffling. Sounds like a marketing decision. Once you bring the concept of "marketing" into products, you know where that goes. I've only shot .490 from it. Bought some Hornady PA conicals right after I got it and I might experiment but I'm thinking the PA is best left to round balls? Have you shot .495's from your PA ever?

 

[dogfood]

Didn't realize the earlier PA Hunts had the full rifling. It sacrifices a good deal of accuracy I would think, and with the 1:66 twist why they even thought of it is a little baffling. Sounds like a marketing decision. Once you bring the concept of "marketing" into products, you know where that goes. I've only shot .490 from it. Bought some Hornady PA conicals right after I got it and I might experiment but I'm thinking the PA is best left to round balls? Have you shot .495's from your PA ever?

I just got it recently and picked up some .490 at Cabela's the other day, but have yet to shoot it. That being said, I'll let you kow how she performs when the when nice weather coincides with me having an open schedule