Have You Ever Seen a TC 12 guage?

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I was looking thru my 1992 Thompson Center Owners Handbook and saw that they dedicated page 39 to page 50 to their T/C Muzzleloading Shotgun.
They say it is a 12 guage and it came in two different models. One with a screw in choke tube and one without a screw in choke. This model that doesn't have a screw in choke tube is a cylinder bore.

Looking at the photo that they show it appears to be a half stock, round barrel shotgun with a single trigger.

The "12 GUAGE TRAINING & CLAY TARGET LOAD" they show is for 70 grains of 2Fg black powder with, "Either 2 T/C 12 guage, 1/2" Fiber Cushion Wads. One wad over the powder and another over the shot as illustrated on page 41. Or, Two 12 guage Natural Wads Over The Powder And One Over The Shot." This load is for, "approx. 1 oz. of shot."

They also list a, "12 GUAGE HUNTING & CLAY TARGET LOAD" with 80 grains of 2Fg black powder with, Either Two T/C 12 guage 1/2" Fiber Cushion Wads. One wad over the powder and another oer the shot as illustraged on page 41. Or, Two 12 Guage Natural Wads Over The Powder And One Over The Shot." (The capitalizations shown are theirs, not mine.)
This load is for 1 1/8 ounces of shot.

I guess the reason I'm posting this is, I have never seen a factory made T/C single barrel 12 guage shotgun. Have you?

I have one with screw in chokes. They are the same as regular Winchester tubes.

 

[ADK Bigfoot]

I have a TC New Englander single shot 12 gauge with choke tubes. Properly loaded, it will run with any modern 12 gauge turkey gun out there. I regularly shoot solid turkey killing patterns at 40 yards with it. It is a pain to load; load the powder, take out the choke, load the wad/wads/shotcup, load the shot, load the OP wad, replace the choke tube. I have super full, full, modified, and cylinder choke tubes for it. I had a .54 rifle barrel with scope base for a while, but I let it go to someone who needed it more than I. The smooth bore is not going anywhere soon.

ADK Bigfoot

 

[ADK Bigfoot]

Forgot to mention, my New Englander is left handed.

ADK Bigfoot

 

[weitzfc]

I was looking thru my 1992 Thompson Center Owners Handbook and saw that they dedicated page 39 to page 50 to their T/C Muzzleloading Shotgun.
They say it is a 12 guage and it came in two different models. One with a screw in choke tube and one without a screw in choke. This model that doesn't have a screw in choke tube is a cylinder bore.

Looking at the photo that they show it appears to be a half stock, round barrel shotgun with a single trigger.

The "12 GUAGE TRAINING & CLAY TARGET LOAD" they show is for 70 grains of 2Fg black powder with, "Either 2 T/C 12 guage, 1/2" Fiber Cushion Wads. One wad over the powder and another over the shot as illustrated on page 41. Or, Two 12 guage Natural Wads Over The Powder And One Over The Shot." This load is for, "approx. 1 oz. of shot."

They also list a, "12 GUAGE HUNTING & CLAY TARGET LOAD" with 80 grains of 2Fg black powder with, Either Two T/C 12 guage 1/2" Fiber Cushion Wads. One wad over the powder and another oer the shot as illustraged on page 41. Or, Two 12 Guage Natural Wads Over The Powder And One Over The Shot." (The capitalizations shown are theirs, not mine.)
This load is for 1 1/8 ounces of shot.

I guess the reason I'm posting this is, I have never seen a factory made T/C single barrel 12 guage shotgun. Have you?

I was looking thru my 1992 Thompson Center Owners Handbook and saw that they dedicated page 39 to page 50 to their T/C Muzzleloading Shotgun.
They say it is a 12 guage and it came in two different models. One with a screw in choke tube and one without a screw in choke. This model that doesn't have a screw in choke tube is a cylinder bore.

Looking at the photo that they show it appears to be a half stock, round barrel shotgun with a single trigger.

The "12 GUAGE TRAINING & CLAY TARGET LOAD" they show is for 70 grains of 2Fg black powder with, "Either 2 T/C 12 guage, 1/2" Fiber Cushion Wads. One wad over the powder and another over the shot as illustrated on page 41. Or, Two 12 guage Natural Wads Over The Powder And One Over The Shot." This load is for, "approx. 1 oz. of shot."

They also list a, "12 GUAGE HUNTING & CLAY TARGET LOAD" with 80 grains of 2Fg black powder with, Either Two T/C 12 guage 1/2" Fiber Cushion Wads. One wad over the powder and another oer the shot as illustraged on page 41. Or, Two 12 Guage Natural Wads Over The Powder And One Over The Shot." (The capitalizations shown are theirs, not mine.)
This load is for 1 1/8 ounces of shot.

I guess the reason I'm posting this is, I have never seen a factory made T/C single barrel 12 guage shotgun. Have you?

 

[weitzfc]

the first is a new englander 12gauge , cylinder bore . the other is a 20 gauge made from a t/c Pennsylvania stock , and a Sharon octagon to round flintlock barrel , converted to percussion . both have killed deer, rabbits and squirrels. their both light , and have straight stocks with the amount of drop I like .

 

[ppg1949]

the first is a new englander 12gauge , cylinder bore . the other is a 20 gauge made from a t/c Pennsylvania stock , and a Sharon octagon to round flintlock barrel , converted to percussion . both have killed deer, rabbits and squirrels. their both light , and have straight stocks with the amount of drop I like .

weitzfc, both guns look sweet. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Stumpkiller]

I have an early kit that I had jug choked and a .50 rifle barrel that swaps out. Great little shotgun/rifle.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Forgot to mention, my New Englander is left handed

Yeah my dad has a lefty NE in .54. It's great since whenever he went BP hunting with me, I'd bring my .54 New Englander as a backup. He's not "Mr. Mechanically Inclined" so if something went FUBAR on his rifle, he could shoot my right-hander. He was a little apprehensive of the "backup plan" I had, but I asked him if he'd fired a SxS caplock shotgun with the lock on the same side of his face...,

LD

 

[excess650]

I bought the 12ga choke tube accessory barrel for my NE, and later bought a Tree Hawk with cylinder bore shotgun barrel only. I've found them easy to load and very forgiving, BUT, I use (2) 10ga wonder wads over the powder and a single overshot card. This works with choke tubes or not.

Felt wads from Ballistic Products lightly lubed should do as well as the wonder wads.

 

[E. B. Leland]

I have had both New Englanders (screw in choke and no choke) versions. A friend talked me out of the choked one, but I hunt regularly with the other one.
75 gr volume of ffg, three over shot wads, 90 gr volume 7-1/2 shot and one more over shot wad. Shots like a champ!

 

[Mark Herman]

I have a New Englander with an aftermarket octagon to round 12 gauge barrel on it. Few minor handling marks but the barrel is bright and clean, no choke tubes. Shot low for the previous owner and he "JB welded" a block on the breach.

 

[Greymule]

I have a New Englander with a 12 gauge barrel. It is a lot of fun to squirrel hunt with this gun.

 

[pab1]

I had a 12 Ga New Englander that sat for a long time without me firing it. Shotguns never did much for me so I traded it off eventually.

 

[ADK Bigfoot]

I have a left-handed New Englander with the choke tube barrel; with a turkey choke it will run with any modern 12 gauge out to 45 yards. I had the .54 rifle barrel for it with a factory scope base; foolishly sold the rifle barrel. But I only shoot flintlock rifles any more....


ADK Bigfoot