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I guess that could depend on one's definition of seasoning.
Some might consider a nitride coating, or an application of hot blue inside the bore to be seasoning.
There's also other chemical "seasoning" methods.
In the context of muzzleloader barrels, there is only one "seasoning" that people in this hobby speak about...
 
The hygroscopic properties of BP refer to burned powder. So, once the gun is fired, the fouling immediately begins to absorb moisture. How much and how fast depends on the relative humidity. At 10 - 15% humidity it absorbs nearly no moisture and the fouling remains very hard. It is immediately softened when humidity is high.

But I don't know if it's acid that corrodes the metal. In any case, cleaning with water won't corrode the barrel as long as it thoroughly dried.
 
In any case, cleaning with water won't corrode the barrel as long as it thoroughly dried.
Remember that browning on a barrel is rust - a controlled-rusting that is actually protective...

Rusting doesn't happen instantaneously, and if the moisture is removed, an essential part of the rusting process is missing. I'd agree that using water would be a problem IF you filled your barrel with water and let it sit for hours - since cleaning with water is a process that takes a matter minutes, the fear is unfounded.
 
I found out to use Dawn when cleaning unmentionables brass. Since it worked so well for that purpose, I supposed it would work on my ML as well. When cleaning my rifle barrel I usually take a shower with it and a bottle of Dawn. The ML pistol I strip and clean it with Dawn and, of course, dry it all with patches or use a hair dryer to evaporate the remaining moisture. Then everything is wiped down with a rag with gun oil or bore butter.
 
Sorry friend (45man) you raised my blood pressure for a milisecond. I started reading yout post and... my wife is Carol and I have very hard water too! I thought you were "guoting" me.

i've never heard of using antifreeze in with the mix?.
I think he's reffering to windshield washer anti-freeze.
 
guys i have to admit im really stupid in this way. a nay sayer has to hit me in the face before i see it. alot of the chit chat here i dont understand. just dont understand. we can talk about anything here and someone is going to shoot us down. remember this: to be called a idiot by a total nut job is the highest form of praise you will ever receive. most of it goes over my head, doesnt mean they are smarter, just have better mouths at bullshitting. also the one who replyed about anti freeze is 100 percent on. it is a old timers trick. like old dutch here about patching material, anti freeze as a bases for a lube is a real oldtimers trick that still works. i bet mixed with dawn it is even better.
 
guys i have to admit im really stupid in this way. a nay sayer has to hit me in the face before i see it. alot of the chit chat here i dont understand. just dont understand. we can talk about anything here and someone is going to shoot us down. remember this: to be called a idiot by a total nut job is the highest form of praise you will ever receive. most of it goes over my head, doesnt mean they are smarter, just have better mouths at bullshitting.
Um....What...?
 
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Sorry for the mix up on my part. To me and some of us here in warmer climates anti- freeze is that coolant that is put into auto blocks to keep them from freezing. Like Ethylene Glycol or something like that? It never dawned (dawn get it) on me that windshield washer fluid was even referred to as anti freeze.. It must be a northern thing. Once again, sorry. Oh and I hear Washer fluid does work great in MLs.
 
There is some WW fluid that is rated for lower temps (i.e. the Rain-x in my reservoir is rated to -20F). We had temps of -50F not too long ago...
 
I'm sure the stuff in my reservoir is rated for colder than it'll ever get down here. But I've never heard it referred to as anything but Windshield Washer Fluid.
 
Sorry for the mix up on my part. To me and some of us here in warmer climates anti- freeze is that coolant that is put into auto blocks to keep them from freezing. Like Ethylene Glycol or something like that? It never dawned (dawn get it) on me that windshield washer fluid was even referred to as anti freeze.. It must be a northern thing. Once again, sorry. Oh and I hear Washer fluid does work great in MLs.

I am very sure your truck has anti-freeze in it. Don't really think any vehicles now run on just water.
 
I am very sure your truck has anti-freeze in it. Don't really think any vehicles now run on just water.
Anti-freeze doesn't just protect in cold temps, it also protects in the heat - changes the boiling & freezing point of the water with which it is mixed.
 
guys i have to admit im really stupid in this way. a nay sayer has to hit me in the face before i see it. alot of the chit chat here i dont understand. just dont understand. we can talk about anything here and someone is going to shoot us down. remember this: to be called a idiot by a total nut job is the highest form of praise you will ever receive. most of it goes over my head, doesnt mean they are smarter, just have better mouths at bullshitting. also the one who replyed about anti freeze is 100 percent on. it is a old timers trick. like old dutch here about patching material, anti freeze as a bases for a lube is a real oldtimers trick that still works. i bet mixed with dawn it is even better.
??? Many of your posts have value, as this one might. But now and then, like here, the case sentence structure is incomprehensible, can we please get your thoughts more clearly stated?
 
Ok, I'm confused on the wiper fluid/Antifreeze thing. I heard of a lot of people using wiper fluid but are some using antifreeze (ethylene glycol) for a patch lube and cleaning as well? I'll just stick with hot water, I've cleaned many guns with nothing but hot water with no problems, modern and black powder; some really big guns with a steam cleaner and no problems. The hotter the water the better, I think the problems people have come from the steps taken after the cleaning to protect it. Hey, go with what ya know.
 
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