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I bought a Spanish .50 cal Hawken made in Ardessa Spain. The bore was cruddy but it cleaned up with some elbow grease.This isn't a CVA Hawken. This one is a very good copy, actually put a T/C to shame. It's double pinned, hooked breech, long tang and double set triggers. It has deep groove rifling. If I strip the stain and darken it, it will look as good as my custom Hawken. I have been doing this since 72 and I have never seen one before. I have a feelng these came out of the same place that made CVA stuff. CVA should have been selling these. It shoots good too! Anyone ever see these?
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Nit Wit
 
Without a photo it's hard to say if anyone has seen one of these rifles.

The double "pinned" if that is refering to a flat wedge is typical of the CVA Mountain rifle so that might be what you have but here again, without seeing it, I'm just guessing.
 
Spanish.... does that make it Jaukien ?
While it a true repo of a Hawkin lots were good looking guns that shot well. Looking forward to some pictures
 
Without a photo it's hard to say if anyone has seen one of these rifles.

The double "pinned" if that is refering to a flat wedge is typical of the CVA Mountain rifle so that might be what you have but here again, without seeing it, I'm just guessing.
No, this is a true Hawken, not A CVA Mountain rifle, I have a couple of them also.
Nit Wit
 
I have a feelng these came out of the same place that made CVA stuff.
Yes. The Ardessa plant did make CVA for many years,,marketing and international patent issues forced minor changes in the stock and configuration.
CVA changed in the later years of production to cheaper Spanish makers.
CVA was an importer and only made a few hundred here stateside, the custom shop did have a few commemorative runs to the mix that confuses things.
Ardessa made ML guns are still made and sold in the European market and held in high regard.
The difference was/is all about the finish of the stamped out assembly parts,,
 
Many of the Traditions rifles are made by Ardesa S.A. of spain

http://ardesa.com/catalogo/1021/Rifles+Clásicos+Avancarga/

I also have guns from Jukar and Dikar Spain. They all shoot great.



ABOUT COMPANY


ARDESA was born originally over 30 years ago as a small muzzleloading gun factory, which over the years has become one of the largest muzzleloading names in the world.

Our annual production reaches 60.000 - 70.000 weapons a year, being our export share of 95%. In the United States our guns are distributed under the name of TRADITIONS.

During all these years we have developed first line products, with the latest technological innovations which are cutting edge in the industry.

10 years ago we began a new adventure and we became distributors of guns, ammunition and accesories related to the world of hunting and shooting.

Our philosophy is simple, we seek the best and we try to offer the best.

But not being satisfied with our achievements, 2 years ago we considered the difficult challenge of being granted the permissions to manufacture rifled guns, and here we are offering you the most inovative single shot rifle of the industry, the OUTFITTER.

We are proud of being able to offer our friends this new product and we hope it will be the begining of a new line of rifles. We have worked very hard, but we have succeeded.

This page is the result of our dedication and commitment to the sector , created with the intention of offering to the lovers of hunting, shooting and guns in general a channel to comunicate with us, so we invite you to tell us your stories and send us your questions. We will do everything that is in our hand to get back to you.

Best regards, happy hunting, happy shooting and keep fighting for our hobby.

Ardesa's Team.
 
Doesn't your browser Auto translate ?

Mine does :rolleyes:

I could probably help you fix yours.
 
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Imagine a Sam Hawken rifle, not a T/C CVA or traditions Hawken! Like I said This is the first one I've ever seen.
NW
 
Are you sure it's a factory original and not someone's redo ?

Pictures would make this soooo much easier.
 
Yes, It's factory made. Do you suppose it was made for the European market? I will work on phptos in the next life!
NW
I have one as well. Made in Spain is all it says, other than Hawken..50Cal mine has nice rifling in the barrel, with some good twist. I am having a PROBLEM trying to find someone who can repair mine. I got the breech plug out, because the nipple is broke off. Apparently, where I live, “GUNSMITH” is just a sign to put up so you can SELL weapons and all paraphernalia!!
 
I bought a Spanish .50 cal Hawken made in Ardessa Spain. The bore was cruddy but it cleaned up with some elbow grease.This isn't a CVA Hawken. This one is a very good copy, actually put a T/C to shame. It's double pinned, hooked breech, long tang and double set triggers. It has deep groove rifling. If I strip the stain and darken it, it will look as good as my custom Hawken. I have been doing this since 72 and I have never seen one before. I have a feelng these came out of the same place that made CVA stuff. CVA should have been selling these. It shoots good too! Anyone ever see these?

Jukar, Dikar, Ardesa and now Traditions this is the familly from great-grandfather to grandson, it's only the name that has changed over time. ...
It's all the same Spanish construction and the same stuff: the name of the first was Jukar (I have a mountain rifle by Jukar), after that it was Dikar (I have a pistol by Dikar), this become Ardesa (I have one Pennsylvania) and now Traditions (my Hawken 50 cal. is sold since three or four month)....
All that is from Spain and the same "house", the woods from Turkey (a little walnut and a lot of beech). Cheap weapons but have always had very good rifled barrels and so and excellent value for money...
 
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