Fire Resistant Patch Lube

[jrdavis]

they use borax to mate upholstery material fire retardant, that being said you might try soaking your patch material in borax before you lube ..I haven't tried it yet so I don't know how it would work...

 

[Scota4570]

Why? Any liquid or greasy works just fine to prevent smoldering patches and facilitate loading.

 

[Black Hand]

Why? Any liquid or greasy works just fine to prevent smoldering patches and facilitate loading.

Pretty much sums it up...

 

[Black Hand]

they use borax to mate upholstery material fire retardant, that being said you might try soaking your patch material in borax before you lube ..I haven't tried it yet so I don't know how it would work...

If your patches are smoldering, they are old and/or underlubed...

 

[Juice Jaws]

If your patches are smoldering, they are old and/or underlubed...

Black Hand, I have seen patches smoldering more than once, you don't think some lubes have a higher degree of smoldering than others?

 

[jrdavis]

if you use a water soluble oil as Dutch Schultz suggest you end up with a dry patch with a percentage of oil left it.( I used 7-1) this will smolder sometimes. also if you use a spit patch and it dries out before you shoot it will do the same

 

[Black Hand]

if you use a water soluble oil as Dutch Schultz suggest you end up with a dry patch with a percentage of oil left it.( I used 7-1) this will smolder sometimes. also if you use a spit patch and it dries out before you shoot it will do the same

Then why use either? Use something else...dare I say, better.

 

[jrdavis]

If you lube from a tin or use the hole in the stock you could under lube as you say; also if your barrel is ruff and cutting your patches the frayed ends could also hold and ember. There are all sorts of reasons that patches smolder. Not everyone lubes the same way or used the same lube. The important thing is for people to be aware of it...

 

[Black Hand]

Not everyone lubes the same way or used the same lube. The important thing is for people to be aware of it...

Please notice how I mentioned that smoldering patches were old (and dry) and/or underlubed (and dry). I made no mention of lube type...
In my opinion, if one wants to shoot a traditional muzzleloader in a traditional way, one should use traditional lubes - which limits us to animal and plant oils/greases (not material formulated in a chemistry lab)...

 

[Bent Sight]

I can understand the interest in a fire resistant patch lube after shooting a muzzle loader match at our local gun club in October. Between relays, the guy shooting next to me went downrange to stomp on burning patches laying on the ground.

 

[arcticap]

I tend to over lube my patches with Bore Butter and have never seen one smolder, or found any evidence of one having smoldered.
Excess lube usually gets squeezed out of the patch at the muzzle during loading.
if I were concerned about using too much lube then I would use less and still not be concerned about smoldering.
Bore Butter is basically mineral oil and micronized paraffin wax.
I think that its high viscosity also helps it to not smolder after firing.

 

[Crewdawg445]

Please notice how I mentioned that smoldering patches were old (and dry) and/or underlubed (and dry). I made no mention of lube type...
In my opinion, if one wants to shoot a traditional muzzleloader in a traditional way, one should use traditional lubes - which limits us to animal and plant oils/greases (not material formulated in a chemistry lab)...

Agreed and well said.

 

[Turtle Dave]

Don't know if this is correct. I use olive oil as patch lube never had a smoldering patch