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Fri August 26, 2011
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$295.00
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7.1
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supersize
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Description:
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Fullstock - 2 piece joined with brass plate and steel pins. Select hardwood with satin finish. Stock is 46" length with a 3 1/2" drop and a 13 1/4" trigger pull. Barrel is .50 caliber, blued, octagon, 33 1/2" length. 7/8" flats with a 1 in 66" twist. Front sight is a .350" doveteail, blued steel base w/brass blade. Rear sight is a .350 dovetail, blued steel, open sight. Features brass buttplate, toeplate, triggerguard, nosecap, thimbles and sidelock screw washers. Color casehardened lock w/engraved plate. Single trigger. 49" overall length and weighs 7 bs.
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Review Date: Wed October 3, 2007
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 6
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Pros:
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very accurate and reliable. Affordable.
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Cons:
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Two piece stock
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Not your top of the line rifle but it is dependable,accurate and a good starter rifle.
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Kentuckywindage
54 Cal.
Registered: August 2006
Location: Bon carbo, Colorado
Posts: 1919
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Review Date: Sun October 7, 2007
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: $310.00
| Rating: 6
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Pros:
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Excellent balance, superb accuracy
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Cons:
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Buttplate
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Excellent shooting rifle, good quality, great sparker when ordered in flintlock.
One thing i hate about mine is that the rear buttplate, towards the top is cupped to much and likes to hit your collar bone. Not very comfortable when shooting in a t-shirt and a heavy load.
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Big Sky Trapper
36 Cal.
Registered: May 2007
Location: MONTANA
Posts: 89
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Review Date: Fri January 25, 2008
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 0
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Pros:
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as mentioned above
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Cons:
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lenght of pull
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Over all this is a great lower priced flinter. And over all I love it!
BUT this is not a rifle I would recomend to mail order only. I think its one you absolutly should try and shoulder it first, to make sure it fits you well. Im not a very big guy but the short length of pull makes it very hard to line up the sights correctly and keep the rifle in a comfortable postion.
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geologist
32 Cal.
Registered: May 2008
Location: White Gull, Alberta, Canada
Posts: 18
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Review Date: Mon June 2, 2008
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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Nice to shoot, reasonably accurate, easy to clean.
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Cons:
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Fixed sights, short ram rod.
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Butt plate is very unconfortable if held into the shoulder, however if held just above the arm pit, between the shoulder and the end of the bicept it is quite comfortable and lines up well for off hand shooting.
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Berk
36 Cal.
Registered: September 2005
Location: South central Indiana
Posts: 80
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Review Date: Mon September 29, 2008
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 6
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Pros:
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Cant beat the price
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If you are looking for a gun that you can put several hundred shots through a year look elsewhere For a hunting gun that you shoot times a year go for it
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I have had one of these guns for several years I am on the third lock in fact. I have converted mine to flint and installed a double set trigger in it. I still hunt with it but use my TVM .40 for club shoots.
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PA Rifleman
40 Cal.
Registered: November 2006
Location: Southeastern PA, USA
Posts: 149
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Review Date: Thu December 11, 2008
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 7
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Pros:
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Great value, *very* reliable flint gun, looks good, good shooter
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Cons:
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Rear sight not even close to original, wood dough used for cheap inletting
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I have the Pennsylvania rifle in flint, which is the same Ardesa-built gun with more decorations and a set trigger.
It's a great flinter but it's an entry level production gun. My example is very reliable, I don't think it's misfired yet. Accuracy-wise it's okay but not spectacular. My example hits low at 25 yards, so obviously the front sight needs to go down or the rear sight up. The rear sight adjustment setup isn't to my liking, the rear sight spring looks *far* too thick.
Since it is very reliable and faster than my muskets, I really enjoy shooting it. As far as cleaning, I'm from the school that mandates complete detail teardowns for cleaning and inspection. With modern guns and infrequent use, this is okay. With some guns, maybe not. This appears to be the case with the Traditions PA Rifle. It looks like Ardesa used wood dough to fill in where there were gaps around the lock and inlays, and also the barrel retaining pins. It's not hard to clean but I don't look forward to the day when I pull the barrel for interior cleaning.
I haven't fired it long enough to detail it's capabilities, but it is an excellent shooter. If I have more time, I'll try targets at 100 yards and beyond. Judging by my rate of improvement the last time I fired it, 100 yard targets shouldn't be a problem. It has a very long sight radius and a nice, thin front sight blade.
Ardesa:
http://www.ardesa.com/avancarga/eng/rifles_clasicos.htm
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squib load
40 Cal.
Registered: August 2006
Location: ROCK HILL,South Carolina
Posts: 378
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Review Date: Sat August 29, 2009
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 7
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Pros:
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accurate,looks good,my starter gun,
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Cons:
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I cant find any.
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This is my first rifle build.I enjoy it very much.It is a straight shooter.I had a little trouble at first putting to much lube on my patches.I think this gun can help me get into great sport of BP shooting.
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luie b
54 Cal.
Registered: June 2009
Location: Western IL(Hancock County)
Posts: 1806
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Review Date: Thu September 10, 2009
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 7
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Pros:
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accurate, nice woodwork, easy to clean
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Cons:
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fixed sights are sighted in at 50 yards
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Good hunting rifle. I am impressed with the woodwork and butt plate doesn't really bother me at all. The only thing I don't like is how it is sighted in at 50 yards with the fixed sights. I don't think that's ideal for hunting because you have to aim low at distances under that.
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DaveC
32 Cal.
Registered: November 2009
Location: Texas
Posts: 14
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Review Date: Tue April 27, 2010
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 9
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Pros:
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Very accurate, well-balanced, affordable, good starter rifle,
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Cons:
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Flimsy/short ramrod, 2-piece stock not as nice as 1-piece.
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I just got into muzzleloading. My first starter rifle was the Traditions Kentucky cap-lock .50 cal. 1 turn in 66-in. barrel. It is an attractive traditionally-styled rifle with full-length 2-piece birch stock stained to resemble a dark walnut. It has very nice brass furniture, three rod thimbles, a muzzle end-cap, curved brass buttplate,trigger guard and single trigger, and a toe plate secured by three screws, which seems quite sturdy.
I cleaned the barrel carefully with Ballistol and water, followed by dry patching and T/C bore butter. I dry patched it clean and fired off 3 percussion caps before I shot it at a range, off-hand. The rifle is svelte and seems almost fragile because it is 7 pounds but fully 48 inches long. It balances well, and I liked the muzzle-heavy feel to "hang" on target while shooting from the off-hand position. At first the caps would not stay on the nipple, but this situation improved with use. The CCI magnum caps worked well, but usually got stuck up inside the hammer and had to be removed each time. Trigger pull was a bit heavy, but not too bad, and with a crisp final let-off.
I will wait until I get consistent, repeatable results before I change the sights, but I was pleased with the accuracy at 25 and 50 yards. At 100 yards using a .495" PRB and 65 grains of GOEX 3fff from the bench it was hitting far to the right, but I had issues with the rod sliding out about 6-inches from the sand bag, which may have adversely effected those shots. My most accurate initial shooting was a four shot clover leaf with one flier to the right at 25 yards using a Speer .495" lead round ball with a .018 pillow ticking patch lubed with T/C bore butter backed by 60 grains of GOEX 3fff powder. I swabbed with a Blue Thunder solvent patch, waited for 5 or 6 seconds, and then followed with a single dry patch between shots. Switching to 55 grains of powder and swabbing every five shots was still good. I'm confident I will get a load worked up soon for the rifle. Next time I'll try 2ff powder and later still, .490" balls.
Clean up was OK, but like anything for a novice, gave me some problems. I started out using too big a patch, which jammed up the rod I was using. I patch cleaned it in the field, then took it home, and using a length of tubing through the nipple hole into a pot of 2 liters of hot water, I pumped water up into the bore and back into the pot. This procedure worked OK, but a few times the water would squirt out of the sides of the bolster and get all over the stock, which concerned me. Also I became concerned about water or patch lube running down the muzzle between the barrel and the stock. Once the bore was swabbed with hot water, I switched to dry patching, WD40, more dry patching, and then T/C bore butter for preservation. I pulled the lock mechanism and cleaned it with Ballistol. So far I have a very favorable review of the rifle and its performance. I think it is a nice barrel installed on a budget rifle action and stock, but all-in-all a lot of value for the price. I prefer the esthetics of the full-length Kentucky stock, and I wanted a rifle with the 1-66" rate of twist over the more common 1-48" twist favored by most beginner Hawkens I have seen.
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Mr.Brooks
32 Cal.
Registered: April 2010
Location: Klamath Falls Oregon
Posts: 35
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Review Date: Tue April 27, 2010
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 8
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I bought mine in the late 1990's and I can't remember the price but I do remember it was very competitive with other brands. It's affordable, accurate with a variety of loads, and looks good to. It also outshoots my Lyman. The rod did slide out when I fired it but 2-3 wraps of dental floss around the ferrules took care of that. Dental floss may not be historically acccurate but there should be something appropriate. I don't like the pins and like PA Rifleman I'm not looking forward to the day I give it a deep all over cleaning. Overall review good to very good and when considering the price then very good to excellent.
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hanshi
62 Cal.
Registered: May 2009
Location: Virginia
Posts: 2976
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Review Date: Thu October 28, 2010
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 7
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Pros:
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This rifle fit like a glove when shouldered.
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Cons:
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Not crazy over the two piece stock.
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I have never owned this rifle but have had opportunities to handle them. They are good quality for the price and I wouldn't hesitate buying one if I was in the market for a factory rifle.
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DanInMEARNG
32 Cal.
Registered: February 2011
Location: Paris, Maine
Posts: 9
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Review Date: Fri February 4, 2011
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: $279.99
| Rating: 6
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Pros:
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Affordable, wood looks pretty, seems accurate
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Cons:
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Flintlock too strong
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Everyone has to start somewhere. For those that can't afford the better prodution and custom guns, this is for you. Just make sure to get real black powder. I made the mistake of getting the fake stuff cause I couldn't find real powder anywhere, nearly quit BP altogether. Finally found real black powder and the rifle has been 100% reliable since. No hangfire and no misfire. Fun to shoot
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lee-bye
32 Cal.
Registered: March 2011
Location: 1 mile so. of canadien border in ny state
Posts: 15
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Review Date: Fri August 26, 2011
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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It fits me perfect
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Cons:
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2-piece stock
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This is my second one, first one was stolen. I like the way it hangs for off-hand shooting. Very accurate. Mine is a Jukar in 44 cal. I love it!!
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