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Description: Caliber: .75
Barrel 41 15/16 in.
Length: 58 1/4 in.
Weight: 8.82 lb.


The Brown Bess was the musket used by the English troops during the Empire extension and consolidation in India and America. Veteran of the Seven Years War, it was used also by Wellington during the war in the Iberian Peninsula and at Waterloo. The infantry troops of almost the entire world used it, from the European Nations allied with the English to the Mexican troops, who used it until the last battle with United States on the 13th of September 1874 at Chapultepec. Our reproduction has a lock with the signature of the gunsmith William Grice and the date 1762, the crown and the alphabetical letters GR (Georgius Rex). The smooth bore barrel is made of steel, satin finish, the walnut stock is oil finish.

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Jack Aubrey

45 Cal.

Registered: December 2004
Location: Anglo Texan in Florida
Posts: 530
Review Date: Sun October 28, 2007 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: $800.00 | Rating: 10 

 
Pros: Well made,solid musket.Accurate,within range limitations.
Cons: Somewhat expensive,however you get what you pay for.

I have found mine to be an excellent musket.Good wood to metal fit.Accurate within its range limitations.Frizzen sparks well.I would very much recommend one to anyone considering the purchase of a Brown Bess.
juancho
36 Cal.

Registered: October 2006
Posts: 82
Review Date: Wed December 5, 2007 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 10 

 
Pros: big bore, big lock, long barrel as fowler piece.
Cons: Heavy, big bore, no real sights, I only have one

Exelent reproduction for the money.No more range than a shotgun,but very efective.I use it almost exclusively as my single barrel shotgun.Now I need the short version.
bessbattlesystem

45 Cal.

Registered: October 2006
Location: Canada
Posts: 696
Review Date: Tue February 5, 2008 Would you recommend the product? No | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 4 

 
Pros: European walnut stock, fun in kit form
Cons: Lock is weak, touchhole is drilled halfway into breechplug making fouling in the field a rage inspiring curse, improper swing swivels, worst brass castings I have ever seen,

Overpriced, unrelyable and only good to fire 3-4 times before needing to HEAVYILY clean the breech plug.
I will have to save up a couple hundred dollars to get the breach reworked as the touch hole is drilled into the breachplug and fills with fouling quick, then get more stout springs after that it might shoot as good as my indian longland.

Looks good on the wall.
Capn D

32 Cal.

Registered: December 2007
Location: Walton County, Georgia
Posts: 15
Review Date: Wed February 6, 2008 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 7 

 
Pros: Attractive, solid construction, nice heavy walnut, accurate
Cons: Frizzen too soft on arrival,

Mine is probably pretty old. I bought it new in 1983. It is accurate and has been a great outdoor companion in all weather for 25 years. I have fired hundreds of blanks and hundreds of .730 and .715 round balls as well as all sizes of shot. It has some light pitting from living history encampments that were wet for days but otherwise is going strong. I replaced the main spring in 1999 due weakness. Have rehardened the frizzen three times in 25 years. The touch hole may need to be lined soon because its beginning to get a bit too large.
temple

36 Cal.

Registered: July 2007
Location: michigan
Posts: 52
Review Date: Thu October 9, 2008 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 9 

 
Pros: easily interchangable part, beautiful stock, well put together
Cons: price

i have used two pedersolis one that was purchased in the mid 70's and one purchased about a year ago. the locks were almost identical. i have fired both quite extenxively and found them both to be quite accurate at 60 yards. the newer model however have a much nice stock. the older versions have a nasty looking plastic clear coat on them. a great gun love them to death. have taken many deer down easily with my bess.
longhunter 50cal
Pilgrim

Registered: April 2008
Location: Upstate N.Y.
Posts: 5
Review Date: Sat December 6, 2008 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 8 

 
Pros: Very well made, accurate and reliable
Cons: Starting to get alittle up in price.

It was my first flintlock musket and have never had any problems with it. I have found it to be a very accurate and reliable shooter. At close range I can groop almost as close as with my custom built 50 cal longrifle.I also have one of their Sharps rifles and find the same great workmanship in it.
As for Bessbattlesystem, are you sure you didn't have one of those Indian made Bess?
PA Rifleman

40 Cal.

Registered: November 2006
Location: Southeastern PA, USA
Posts: 145
Review Date: Thu December 11, 2008 Would you recommend the product? Yes | Price you paid?: None indicated | Rating: 10 

 
Pros: Excellent quality, top-notch, reliable
Cons: Cost-very expensive

Very good quality, bought my Pedersoli Bess new in 1986 or 87. It was my first flintlock and I wasn't disappointed. It hasn't needed any service over the years except for a frizzen hardening. The bore is still shiny and the wood is still tight and smooth. I paid about $500 for it from Navy Arms, they had two left. In retrospect I should have bought both as the price shot up quickly. 21 years later, my musket's still chugging along.

In retrospect, it's an excellent starter gun for someone not familiar with flintlock. It's easy to clean, reliable sparker, very forgiving of most mistakes and simple to operate. I really regret not buying one when I was in my early teens, it would have been a lot of fun to shoot during summer vacation in the woods.

Pedersoli's quality is very good, but with their newer investment casting process they should have been able to keep their prices down. I must also admit Pedersoli's quality really spoiled me. Their inletting is top shelf, I assumed all black powder arms were built to tis standard. I'm sure you can imagine my reaction when I pulled an Indian-made gun out of the box for the first time.

It's a musket, and like all muskets it behaves like a shotgun. Really destructive up close but strictly short range. It's a good sparker, but the frizzen went soft over the years at some point. It's been played with a lot by guests and kids who like seeing the lock spark. So I hardened it for the first time about a year ago.

Right now my musket's fighting the war against ignorance. It's part of a mobile historical exhibit that I take to local schools, and kids can touch a real musket for the first time. So, hopefully my Pedersoli is sowing the seeds for a future generation of gun enthusiasts.

In closing, don't hesitate to buy one used but make sure it's Pedersoli, *not* Navy Arms. Many people, including me, assumed the two are synonymous. They aren't, and it's an old seller's trick to list a musket as a "Navy Arms musket" with the hopes it'll draw lots of bids from inexperienced bidders assuming it's a Pedersoli. Navy Arms sold several different manufacturers over the years, and I ended up with a Japanese made musket while expecting a Pedersoli. This is important because Pedersoli continues to sell parts and support their products, the Japanese made guns are not. Parts supplies are serious problem with some Japanese-made guns. Fortunately it worked out okay in the end, but it could have easily been a serious mistake.


 
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