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I finally got a .54 cal PRB shooter

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I have been wanting a .54 rifle for PRB shooting. It is to be a hunting rifle and for range fun too. I have a .54 Flintlock that is set up but wanted a percussion rifle to compliment it. I was given a .50 CVA Hawken with a 1:60 barrel marked '87 and it was very accurate. However, I really didn't want the .50. I happened upon a CVA Hawken barrel in .54 marked '87 and with a 1:60 ROT , 15/16th in the white. While I am not sure, I think it may be the .54 barrel that came in a two-barrel kit. Nonetheless, for $65 I had a .54 that should be capable of accurately sending PRB down range. I cleaned it and then degreased it an threw it in the bluing tank. Once blued I took the components off of the .50 barrel and installed them on the .54.

Today I headed to the range. 87 degrees and a steady L-R wind at 10 MPH. I set up on the bench and started at 50 yards since I had bore-sighted it at home. I went through several different powders and it definitely showed a preference for Triple 7 FFFg. That is ok with me since that is the most readily available powder for me (and I can dedicate my Goex supply to the Flintlock). Next I tried to narrow down the patches. I quickly found that a .018 was best because the groups from smaller thickness shrunk noticeable with the .018's no matter what the lube was. Next I tried different lubes. Again, an obvious preference stood out. 7:1 ballistol/water "dry" patches had consistent groups where the other combos of different lubes nearly always threw one out of a 5-shot group. Last, I had the amount of powder started at 70 grains. I increased by 5 grain increments firing 3-shot groups. At 100 grains the holes were touching on the 50 yard target. I did not try more as this is a pretty heavy load already. Back down to 70 grains, I repeated the process. Again, a clear preference for 100 grain charge. Ok, so my load is 100 grains Triple 7 FFFg/.018 dry patch 7:1/.530 PRB/#11 cap. Honestly, I didn't want it to like that much powder. I use more of it and the gun digs into my shoulder with the sharp toe and heel with that charge. But, that's what she wants so I'm going to give it to her.

Next I moved the CVA adjustable sight. Three shot group fired and then adjusted as necessary. I dialed in 2-inches high at 50 yards and fired a 12 shot "group". Note: I spit swabbed between each shot, wet side out short strokes up and down barrel and then flip the patch and one long stroke in and out.

Now I moved to 100-yards. I fired one group and moved the sights DOWN as it was hitting around 6" high. The next group showed the proximity of proper elevation The sights are a little difficult at that range but I could still see the 2-inch red bullseye. I held 6' O'clock because the sight picture was easier that way. That 3-shot group measures 2.5-inches and landed 1.5 inches low. Next, I held "dead-on" the red bullseye which means it is pretty much blocked out by the front sight. That ended up putting a 3.5-inch group 3.25 inches high. Last, I tried to hold so I could see the crest of the red bullseye right over the tip of the front sight. That shot landed right where I was aiming, hitting the red bullseye at the 12 O'clock position.

The last thing I did was move back to 50-yards. I thought the downward sight adjustment would affect the 50-yard POI more that it did. The shot landed within the group I previously had at 50-yards, just a little low on the group.

The load is not what I would have chosen to load, but I can't argue with the results. If it needs 100-grains to be happy then so be it. I plan to get out and spend another day at 100-yards before the rifle deer season begins. Finally, a .54 PRB shooter in percussion.
The set trigger was a little too light at a couple ounces. At 100-yard you'd think it would help to have a light trigger, but it was so light it effected the groups negatively. When I got home I cleaned the rifle and adjusted the triggers so that when set, the front trigger will go off at 2.2 pounds.

The target with the rifle is a 12-round group I shot at a steady pace. The last target is the one where I sorted out the sight picture at 100 yards.
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I like my front sight to cut the bullseye I am shooting at. I don't like to hold at six o'clock to hit center. That means you are shooting way high. I missed a rabbit because my sights were adjusted that way once.

I shot at the center of his head with my Ruger 22 standard model with fixed sights and 4" barrel. I missed his head but shot a hole through both ears. And he stayed still??? So the next shot I held below his head and drilled him just below the eye. When I got home I made a taller sight for the front then filed it down till it shot just above the top of the sight. To shoot a soup can in the center, hold just below center. Thats how I like all my open sighted guns sighted in.

Your groups are excellent. It looks like you have a real shooter on your hands. You don't have to spend a $1000+ dollars to get a BP rifle that shoots. Those inexpensive CVA/Traditions rifles will surprise you with how well they shoot.
 
I forgot to add that I just bought a 50 caliber rifle off GB that was listed as having a 1/60 twist barrel. The gun is made by Investarms and looks for all the world just like a Cabelas Hawken they have sold a bazillion of. Except this gun has a 1/60 twist just like the Lyman GP rifle that is so well thought of in a shorter package than the Great Plains rifle.

I hope it shoots a PRB as well your guns does.
 
Congrats on a good shooter! It will have no problem putting meat on the table.

I took my very 1st deer with BP using a TC Hawken in 54 with a PRB. I still have that gun but havent shot it in better than 20yrs. You have inspired me to drag her out & shoot it again. I hope it can do nearly as well.
 
burlesontom said:
I like my front sight to cut the bullseye I am shooting at. I don't like to hold at six o'clock to hit center. That means you are shooting way high..
So TRUE ... but for load develolment and sigting in rifle, it is the BEST sight picture obtainable whilst using open or aperture sights! Why on earth one would ”˜sight in’ or develop a load with an inferior sight picture is beyond my comprehension ...

Aim at 6 o’clock and your group should be around your Point of Aim (POA). Then when you hunt ... like you said, you’re dead on!
 
I have 3 50cal. CVA Mountain rifles with USA barrels and 1 54cal unmarked CVA barrel on a Leman trade rifle I built. They all are better shooters than I am. :doh:
 
Sounds like a hunting machine for sure!! Congrats. You will enjoy it for a long time.
I have a .54 perc “Poor Boy” plains rifle I built from a few old Renegade parts as well as collected cast parts and walnut half stock from Track. She’s a shooter too, but I haven’t had her to the range in awhile. Gave all my .50 cal perc and flint rifles to my nephews early this summer and only have the .54 left. We are headed for elk and deer this afternoon in fact. Excited is an understatement!!
Take care.
Walkingeagle
 
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