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Gene L 
54 Cal.
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09-11-18 03:46 PM - Post#1702161    


Two, actually. First was the dovetail wedge that holds the loading lever in place on my 1861 Navy fell off and was lost in the grass. Talked to Uberti, and they said they'd send me one. It's an old gun but has been shot only 12 times or so. The technician was read the serial number and was surprised it was so old (and I guess out of warranty.) After explaining I'd had the gun for 10 years but hadn't shot it, the operator said OK.

Second was my OTHER 1861 (the new one) was the hand was too thick which jammed up and wouldn't allow the cylinder to rotate. It's never been fired. My gunsmith buddy filed it down and now it works fine. I put the newer barrel on the old frame, but the two aren't necessarily the same and the wedge wouldn't interchange.

 
hadden west 
58 Cal.
Posts: 2259
hadden west
09-14-18 10:45 AM - Post#1702549    

    In response to Gene L

I've had similar problems with Uberti's and other Colt clones. I've also had a Ruger Old Army, that had to be de-burred. Seems like the pride in workmanship, has been lost. Metal's are better, machining process is better, but hand fitting skills, seemed to have been lost.

It's a shame, but poor fitting, has become the new normal.

 
ol vern 
40 Cal.
Posts: 361
09-14-18 12:41 PM - Post#1702574    

    In response to hadden west

  • hadden west Said:
I've had similar problems with Uberti's and other Colt clones. I've also had a Ruger Old Army, that had to be de-burred. Seems like the pride in workmanship, has been lost. Metal's are better, machining process is better, but hand fitting skills, seemed to have been lost.

It's a shame, but poor fitting, has become the new normal.



Not lost, priced out of the market. The kind of hand work the old
timers did would probably add a couple of hundred dollars to the the price.

 
hadden west 
58 Cal.
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hadden west
09-14-18 02:12 PM - Post#1702582    

    In response to ol vern

Right On

 
Old Ford 
62 Cal.
Posts: 2518
09-16-18 07:35 AM - Post#1702808    

    In response to Gene L

Welcome to the forum!
Great help here.
Fred

Edited by Old Ford on 09-16-18 07:37 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Gene L 
54 Cal.
Posts: 1524
09-16-18 09:33 AM - Post#1702821    

    In response to Old Ford

A follow up. I called Uberti about the part missing, which I THOUGHT I described...the dovetailed part near the muzzle that holds the loading lever in place. It took hours to reach a live voice, and after describing it, he said he knew exactly what I was talking about. He'd send me the part.

About a week later, I received a barrel wedge. I since found out the part I needed is called a "lug."



 
bigted 
40 Cal.
Posts: 428
bigted
09-24-18 06:59 AM - Post#1703935    

    In response to Gene L

Myself and several others call these modern C&B revolvers " kit guns". Reason is that they all require work of some kind.

I for one am willing and indeed happy to do these upgrades on these revolvers for a couple reasons;

1 ... the price is down so even a po boy can afford them. Would be priced out of my reach if the smoothing and inner detail work was factory done.
2 ... then there is pride of ownership that comes with some " sweat equity". Nothing gives me ownership like fiddling with a gun. It makes me familiar with it in a way not possible any other way.
3 ... i know ... i said " couple". But there is a third that is important to me as well. That is the feeling of independence i get from the disassembly and "fixing" my own stuff and making it fit my needs and desires much like our forfathers had to do.


Nothing in the world comes with a turn key operation without somebody doing the final touch on it and i readily do so at the firm commitment of ownership of a weapon that will serve me for years to come and possibly my heirs later on.

Most of my BP guns look USED because they ARE used and enjoyed. This is the why of why i love black powder muzzle loading guns. I can never get the feeling from a gun that simply uses metal cartridges and powder that has no class. They are fun and i do shoot them BUT when i really desire to let the hair down ... a muzzle loading gun of some kind will be in hand and a special grin on me mug

 
Redstick Lee 
40 Cal.
Posts: 233
Redstick Lee
09-24-18 04:25 PM - Post#1703989    

    In response to Gene L

before you install the new lug, strike a dimple into the flat in the barrel dovetail, and after it's tapped into place, peen the dovetail wings down over the top of the lug with a punch.

it will be there for the duration then.
--------------------
Democracy is 2 wolves and a lamb voting on what's for dinner...
Liberty is a well armed lamb !


 
Gene L 
54 Cal.
Posts: 1524
09-24-18 05:47 PM - Post#1704004    

    In response to Redstick Lee

Did it. It's there to stay now.

 
Old Ford 
62 Cal.
Posts: 2518
09-25-18 07:25 AM - Post#1704040    

    In response to Gene L

My friend Bubba can weld it for you
Fred

 
Smokey Plainsman 
50 Cal.
Posts: 1045
Smokey Plainsman
09-25-18 08:41 PM - Post#1704127    

    In response to Old Ford

My new Uberti 58 is superb, but came with seized cones from the factory.


 
Richard Eames 
69 Cal.
Posts: 3694
09-26-18 04:04 AM - Post#1704151    

    In response to Smokey Plainsman

The reason the nipples are seized is the after the cylinder completly manufactured, the nipples were installed, then the cylinder was blued.




Edited by Richard Eames on 09-26-18 04:07 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
enfieldguy 
32 Cal.
Posts: 19
10-07-18 01:54 AM - Post#1705930    

    In response to Gene L

Have you checked the arbor depth on your Navy? Uberti's are notorious for bad arbor/barrel interface. This also affects the cylinder gap. When it's set correctly, the arbor length sets the gap. The wedge just holds everything together. Then correctly fitted, the wedge will seat with just thumb pressure and the catch spring will hold it in pace. The last new Uberti I bought was a London Navy back in 2012 that was converted to cartridge. The arbor was almost .125" too short and needed to be lengthened to fit correctly. On the other hand, I have a Uberti Navy I bought back in 1983 that was perfect right out of the box.

Edited by enfieldguy on 10-07-18 01:55 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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