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Louisk 
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06-11-18 02:12 AM - Post#1689241    


I've been casually browsing GunBroker. I noticed a couple of long rifles made by Miroku. There was a .45 cal. flintlock with bids up around $250.00. It was a little funky looking with a wide brass strap (two piece stock?) and what looked like a fake patch box. Any experience with those as far as functionality?

Edited by Louisk on 06-11-18 02:13 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Loyalist Dave 
Cannon
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Loyalist Dave
06-11-18 07:26 AM - Post#1689253    

    In response to Louisk

The barrels are from Miroku, as are the barrels on a Japanese Bess, and most barrels from Browning. Not sure on the locks though. They were inexpensive, black powder guns from the 60's through the 80's, but I don't know if they are still making them, and yes, two-piece stocks. They could be good shooters. Tough to tell without actually looking down the bore, AND actually working the lock. $250 is high (imho)

LD

 
azmntman 
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azmntman
06-11-18 08:28 AM - Post#1689273    

    In response to Loyalist Dave

$250 is high (imho)

By at leat $100.00

 
Col. Batguano 
69 Cal.
Posts: 3059
06-11-18 12:17 PM - Post#1689299    

    In response to Louisk

I mistakenly bought one in 45 cal cap lock about 5 years ago. They're awful. The comb it too thin, and the lock couldn't bust a cap. Front lug was too deep that interfered with insetting a RR and needed filing. Stock finish is lacking any conformity,--runs, and the faux patch box was poorly inletted. Trigger pull was hard. The nipple was very difficult to get a wrench in there to remove it. The stock wobbles on the spacer, and the bore was rough. Other than those rather minor issues, they're wonderful.

 
Loyalist Dave 
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Loyalist Dave
06-11-18 02:08 PM - Post#1689317    

    In response to azmntman

  • Quote:
By at least $100.00



My estimate, too.

LD

 
Louisk 
40 Cal.
Posts: 158
06-12-18 02:00 AM - Post#1689397    

    In response to Loyalist Dave

Thanks. I didn't bid on it. Not a whole lot of great deals there. I saw a few production guns with minimum bid prices considerably higher than the current new prices.

 
Coalforge 
32 Cal.
Posts: 14
07-03-18 12:12 AM - Post#1692317    

    In response to Louisk

I have a caplock 50 cal that the barrel is marked "Sears Roebuck &Co. Miroku 3669" Next line "Hawken Rifle Model 292.51779 50 cal 1:48 twist." I usually place in the top 3 places at the local shoots with it. I got it after a Boy Scout camp closed down. I have no idea how long the scouts may have used it. The bore was in good shape but there was corrosion on the outside of the barrel around the nipple and on the hammer. The gun is tight and shoots well for me.


 
snubnose57 
36 Cal.
Posts: 92
07-06-18 06:30 PM - Post#1692803    

    In response to Coalforge

I have a .45 caplock also, shoots great at 50 yards, never had any issues with it.

 
excess650 
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excess650
07-09-18 05:11 PM - Post#1693107    

    In response to Louisk

The Dixie Tennessee Mountain Rifle and 32cal squirrel rifle were made by BC Miroku. I've owned a pair of the 50cal flintlocks, and they are fine shooters. There have been enough complaints about the flint version lock that L&R makes a replacement. I HAVE a replacement, but mine just keeps on working as it should, so the replacement lock is just waiting....

 
MonkeyPaws 
32 Cal.
Posts: 21
MonkeyPaws
07-11-18 02:43 AM - Post#1693275    

    In response to excess650

Hi,
I have limited experience with Miroku guns but I do like the 2nd Model Brown Bess. The lock is very robust and the fit and finish seems to be very good. I have read many reviews of these guns and most of them are positive. I have an original Brown Bess and if you put it side by side with the Miroku and although it is not an exact copy it is close enough. Just my two cents worth. Kenny

http://s1102.photobucket.com/user/ksearles62/slideshow/Mirok...


Edited by MonkeyPaws on 07-11-18 02:47 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
trent/OH 
58 Cal.
Posts: 2339
07-11-18 05:44 AM - Post#1693283    

    In response to MonkeyPaws

That's some nice photography. It looks to be in great shape, I know my Miroku Bess's buttplate hasn't shined like that in a long time. The French flint in an English gun seems wrong though. Lord Cornwallis would not be pleased.

 
Artificer 
Cannon
Posts: 7379
07-11-18 07:16 AM - Post#1693288    

    In response to trent/OH

With respect, Au contraire....

Up until the early 1770's when French Style gunflints were finally being made in England in large quantities, the British bought TONS of French flints in between their Wars with the French over the years.

So Cornwallis would not only have had his Troops use French Flints, when possible, he most likely would have delighted in using them and especially against the French.

Gus

 
MSW 
Cannon
Posts: 6966
MSW
07-12-18 09:37 AM - Post#1693416    

    In response to excess650

  • excess650 Said:
The Dixie Tennessee Mountain Rifle and 32cal squirrel rifle were made by BC Miroku. I've owned a pair of the 50cal flintlocks, and they are fine shooters. There have been enough complaints about the flint version lock that L&R makes a replacement. I HAVE a replacement, but mine just keeps on working as it should, so the replacement lock is just waiting....



(emphasis added)


that's right: if it's not broken, don't tinker with it!


 
M.D. 
70 Cal.
Posts: 4895
07-14-18 04:28 AM - Post#1693614    

    In response to Louisk

I have one of their flint pistols in .45 cal that I picked up for twenty bucks and it shoots very well and is as reliable as my custom match pistol.
I don't care for the angled forward flash hole but it none the less works very reliably. There is no flash hole liner or anti chamber that I can see.

 
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