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Trade gun?
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Cruzatte
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I've noticed that as well. And I've always wondered. Even U.S. military arms were stocked in walnut, as far as I know. I have heard of some French or English export guns (trade guns, if you will) being stocked in beech. But that may be a rumor.
The book of buckskinning 4 has a chapter written about trade guns. In it he has a photo of an early NWG stored in a partially striped maple,
rich pierce
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Beech was common on the very cheapest English trade guns including the Carolina or type G. Curly maple was of course never used on English trade guns. There is a nice very early English trade gun stocked in curly European ash.
I often wonder if birch was ever used :hmm:
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It's possible. Rossi, I'm told, used it on some of their lever actions in the 20th century.
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Cruzatte
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I have that book, and always wondered if the gun had been restocked in an American or Canadian shop.tenngun said:
Rich pierce mentions curly ash I wonder if this was the gun he was thinking about. It’s hard to tell ash from maple in a grainy black and white photo.
Plane and curly maple was popular in Europe, or at lest England I’ve not seen trade guns on nought but walnut except for this one and American made trade rifles from later.leman made rifles with artificially striped maple, he also made fusils.i don’t know if he mounted any of these on maple.
Plane and curly maple was popular in Europe, or at lest England I’ve not seen trade guns on nought but walnut except for this one and American made trade rifles from later.leman made rifles with artificially striped maple, he also made fusils.i don’t know if he mounted any of these on maple.
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Britsmoothy said:
FWIW, it seems when English gunmakers "strayed" from English Walnut, they went with Beech instead of Birch.
There even was a short period when British Ordnance had to resort to accepting some Beech stocked Brown Besses during the Napoleonic Wars. (Horror of Horrors!!) Of course British Ordnance ensured those were the VERY FIRST MUSKETS that were surplus sold shortly afterwards and only Walnut stocked Muskets were kept.
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Winchester, Savage, Baikal, and Mossberg amongst others have used birch. I just can't see them being the first!
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Maple is listed in British price list for a stock material. Are maples native to Britain? Did they have to import this? For whatever reason maple was scant on Brit guns.
Mosin-Nagant rifles stocked in Russia or Finland used "Arctic Birch". Not those made in the US, however.
I have a Finnish M39 that is a really nice bit of birch (spliced - as they all were I believe).
I would not be surprised if Scandinavian muzzleloaders of the time used Birch - but I don't know that they did.
Helle knives are a good example of the wood.
If quarter-sawn it has a nice flame/stripe.
I have a Finnish M39 that is a really nice bit of birch (spliced - as they all were I believe).
I would not be surprised if Scandinavian muzzleloaders of the time used Birch - but I don't know that they did.
Helle knives are a good example of the wood.
If quarter-sawn it has a nice flame/stripe.
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Maple is generally called sycamore over here and is available.tenngun said:
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Great looking wood! :thumbsup:
