.45 cal barrel for a Seneca

I'm pretty new in the BP gun area of shooting. Been out of it for a long time.

What I want is a .45 cal barrel for a Seneca, 13/16's. If I bought a Green Mountain barrel in the caliber and barrel size, would they put sights and the attendant firing site apparatus on it? If not where would I have to send the barrel to get it completed?

Any idea of costs to bring the barrel up to a usable state?

Like I said I'm new to the barrel buying part of the sport. I have complete guns but the are all TC's or Traditions. I just want a .45 to round out the calibers.

Thanks,
Kelly

$500 plus for labor alone. I just did this dance.

No breech plugs are available for the GM barrel's thread. I made the plug from scratch on the last one I did. It was a PITA.

If you have a TC plug you will have to get a special tap to match the plug, it has oddball threads. A master on a lathe may be able the bore the thread but that costs. I'm very experienced but can't do it. I ned the tap ot clean up the threads.

If you have a bad barrel of a smaller caliber, send it to Bobby Hoyt. This is a good plan.

IMHO the Senecas are highly overrated, I don't get it at all. They were designed by engineers to a price point. There is nothing authentic about them. They have no quality construction or design features. It is all just cast and slapped together.

Consider getting a track Ohio rifle kit. I used a less curved butplate on mine, for comfort. It is a pretty nice rifle. Fully comparable the Seneca on general specs but far higher quality parts.

+1 - On having Bobby Hoyt reline the barrel. You may be better off finding a T/C barrel with a rusted out bore then have Bobby reline it.

I have a Vincent in .45 and the butt plate feels fine as long as you rest it on your upper arm and NOT you shoulder. :thumbsup:

IMHO the Senecas are highly overrated, I don't get it at all. They were designed by engineers to a price point. There is nothing authentic about them. They have no quality construction or design features. It is all just cast and slapped together.

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Your perspective is way off the point. The Seneca, just like the 'hawken' was designed to sell to the mass ml market. It is a smaller gun than the full sized 'hawken' and is suitable for the ladies and youth. My wife's Seneca has a Douglas barrel and has been used (successfully) in competition for more than 40 years. Not "authentic" but well made and dependable after countless tens of thousands of shots going through it. Plus is has bagged a couple deer. Want "authentic"? Then this is certainly not the rifle for you. For that contact a reputable builder and be ready to pay the extra $$$$.

The point is that spending $700 on labor and parts to make a barrel for it makes no sense.

He could build a better new rife for about the same amount.

Here is a possible:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/767053840

Buy it, use the barrel, sell the rest.

No bids yet BUT give it a few days will not be an option soon in my opinion :idunno:

TRY to go to gun broker or gun auction and look for a barrel

Scota4570 said:

Here is a possible:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/767053840

Buy it, use the barrel, sell the rest.

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Link doesn't work.

"nope"

Oh yeah the forum blocks all hot links. IMHO that should be reconsidered. It was a link to a Seneca for sale at a very good price.

To all

Just as a reminder, the Forum Rules are here:
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/306297/

Rule # 34. Do not post items for sale or trade. This includes links or item numbers on eBay or "good deals" on web sites.

Rule # 35. Do not post links to classified ads or auction items (yes, this includes the name of the domain and the item number).

When I click on "forum rules" (at the top of this page) I get a terms of service agreement. It is not a list of rules that includes what was in the previous post. The actual rules are posted under "using the forum". I did not figure that out until now. I bet others are in the same boat.

When the forum changed hands, the new owner wanted to put the service agreement along with its statements of your rights and the forum's rights in a place where it would be easily accessed by all.

He chose to put it in the place where the old Forum Rules used to be.
For some complicated reasons, the old forum rules could not be added to this newly added service agreement so for a period of time there were no guidelines (rules) except for the new service agreement.

Because we felt the Forum needed to include the old forum rules, they were moved to the "Using the Forum" area.

The idea behind this new location is most newcomers to the forum would look for something that would tell him/her how to use the forum.

What place would be more logical than the area entitled, "Using the Forum"?

Mis-Using the Forum :idunno:

:slap: sorry

To find the forum rules...

"What place would be more logical than the area entitled, "Using the Forum"?"


I looked under the tab that says, "Forum Rules", at the top of this page.

I guess I can be very literal.

:grin:

Some years back we fitted a GM 40 caliber barrel to a Seneca. The breech plug came from TOW and is in the catalog today. This allows the the replacement plug to go into the GM barrel. Worked great. Yes, it requires fitting and cutting dovetails etc.

Is not, Track has no plugs, they've been "out of stock" for years. That I why I made one from bar stock. IF a premade plug was available then re-barreling would be simple. I spent most of the time machining the plug on the one I rebarreled. The rest of the project is easy.