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Spence10 
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05-17-18 01:00 PM - Post#1685066    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

  • Colorado Clyde Said:
Looks like yogurt....


No, totally different. The curd is soft as thistledown, as they say, and it essentially disappears with a quick stir.

Commercial buttermilk has half a dozen gums and gels in it to make it smooth and creamy, so there is some difference in the texture of the homemade, but not something which is obvious or objectionable.

Spence


 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
05-17-18 03:04 PM - Post#1685089    

    In response to Spence10

I must admit, It is fascinating all the different things one can make from milk....


 
Spence10 
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05-17-18 04:09 PM - Post#1685099    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

Yes, and by fermentation, all sorts of foods.

Spence

 
Colorado Clyde 
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05-17-18 05:34 PM - Post#1685114    

    In response to Spence10

It's funny, how the tiniest and most "seemingly" insignificant organisms are responsible for our existence...


 
Spence10 
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05-17-18 09:55 PM - Post#1685151    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

Bacteria-R-Us.

Only about 45% of the collection we call Colorado Clyde is made up of human cells, the other 55% are bacteria.

In addition to the bacteria which live on and in us, the power/energy producing factory within each of our cells apparently started as a symbiotic relationship between primitive cells and a bacterium. It has its own DNA and reproduction cycle which parallels cellular reproduction. So we may be bacteria even within most of our body cells.

It's true that we couldn't exist without bacteria, then and now.

We need them for bread and beer, too, of course. And buttermilk.

Spence



 
Colorado Clyde 
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05-17-18 10:27 PM - Post#1685156    

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  • Spence10 Said:
Bacteria-R-Us.

Only about 45% of the collection we call Colorado Clyde is made up of human cells, the other 55% are bacteria.


Spence





Oh, I'm not even that much human...


 
Spence10 
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05-18-18 02:51 PM - Post#1685253    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

My 3 liter batch came out perfect. I had wondered if fermenting a big batch would take longer than a small one, it didn't, the process happened exactly on the same schedule, 2 cups or 10.

Spence

 
nhmoose 
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nhmoose
05-18-18 04:59 PM - Post#1685282    

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Ah lost me on liter?

 
Spence10 
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05-18-18 06:18 PM - Post#1685295    

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  • nhmoose Said:
Ah lost me on liter?


Sorry. Think quart and you won't be far off.

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Colorado Clyde 
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05-18-18 07:48 PM - Post#1685316    

    In response to nhmoose

About 2 ounces more than a quart.. 1.8


 
Spence10 
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05-18-18 07:53 PM - Post#1685317    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

One liter = 1.06 quart.

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Colorado Clyde 
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05-18-18 07:59 PM - Post#1685320    

    In response to Spence10

33.814 ounces in a liter
32 in a quart


 
Spence10 
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05-19-18 09:59 AM - Post#1685383    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

Is there anyone here who remembers seeing butter made by churning fresh, raw milk which had been allowed to sour first?

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zimmerstutzen 
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05-19-18 12:18 PM - Post#1685394    

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That's just it. Around here, the cream was skimmed and turned to butter before the milk had a chance to cool. Butter milk had a slightly blueish tinge and was like drinking water. My mother did have a recipe for a sour milk cake which required milk sour to the point of lumpy before use. But there was still no sourness in the finished product.

 
nhmoose 
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nhmoose
05-19-18 01:58 PM - Post#1685419    

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  • Spence10 Said:
Is there anyone here who remembers seeing butter made by churning fresh, raw milk which had been allowed to sour first?

Spence


That is how my sister made butter from her 2 milk cows. 1 was a Durham the other a Guernsey. This was in the 1970's. The butter was great and then she baked with the milk or fed it to the pigs.

 
sidelock 
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05-19-18 09:07 PM - Post#1685474    

    In response to Spence10

YEP, during the BIG WAR.

Edited by sidelock on 05-19-18 09:10 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Spence10 
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05-19-18 09:21 PM - Post#1685477    

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Sidelock, when milk sours it very soon makes 'clabber'. My memory of Grandmother's buttermilk left from churning butter is of a nice thick, creamy and sour milk, not the thin, blue, bland stuff often described as the milk left after butter is made. The only way that could happen, as I understand it, is if Grandmother's milk had clabbered before she churned it. If I ever knew about that, which I doubt, my 80+ year-old memory is failing me on that point.

Do you know if that is what happened when the old folks let their raw milk sour before making butter from it? Did they churn clabbered milk?

That thin, blue, bland stuff is what you get if you churn fresh milk that has not soured, you get sweet butter and basically whey.

Spence

 
sidelock 
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05-20-18 08:47 PM - Post#1685562    

    In response to Spence10

Yes I am sure they did. We had no refrigeration and they let it sit out for some time. You are right, it was much much better than what is available in stores today. I DO NOT feel underprivelaged to have grown up in that time.

 
Spence10 
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05-20-18 09:55 PM - Post#1685574    

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  • sidelock Said:
I DO NOT feel underprivelaged to have grown up in that time.


I couldn't agree more. What an experience it was, and what heroes our families were to have provided for us as well as they did in sometimes dire circumstance. My family were like the snake, so poor it didn't have a pit to hiss in, but the memories, the memories, and the life lessons we were taught.

Spence


 
sidelock 
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05-21-18 08:26 PM - Post#1685711    

    In response to Spence10

My Wife remembers her mother letting the milk clabber as well. This was happening into the early 1960's.

 
Spence10 
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05-21-18 09:21 PM - Post#1685719    

    In response to sidelock

Thank you, that's good to know.

Spence

 
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