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seeking advice on what nipple to use on my TC black mountain magn

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Howie1968

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seeking advice on what nipple to use on my black mountain magnum .50 it came with a musket nipple, since I didn't have any musket caps I put a tc #11 nipple on her. I shoot magnum #11 caps, should I use the musket nipple or the 11. Ill start her out with 70 grains pyro 3f. the gun is rated to 150 grains. ill be shooting Daves no excuse .50 caliber 600 grain conical out of it and a .50 cal wonder wad over the top of the powder. is the # 11 provide enough spark in this firearm/ with charges p to 100 grains? this will be a close encounter night time hog hunting rifle ill use out of a climbing stand
 
The #11 cap should be adequate. The Magnum #11 is a reasonable if not more than necessary. The musket cap is really way more prime than needed.

Try your rifle to verify that the #11 caps work. I think you will be happy with the results.

Many years ago I had a Zouave that came with the musket cap sized nipple. I found a #11 nipple and used #11 caps quite successfully.
 
If you are going to use Pyrodex with a #11 cap, I would recommend get a hot nipple like the Hot Shot Nipple. The Pyrodex has a higher ignition temp than regular Black Powder, so the extra spark the hot nipple allows into the powder will impove the Pyrodex ingition, especially for standard #11 caps. I've not bought musket caps, but many here say they are a lot more expensive and harder to find, so switching is a good choice. Thompson Center sells the Hot Shot Nipple under their name in 1/4x28 threading. I know you said you were using Magnum #11 caps with a standard nipple and don't know how good your supply is for the Magnum Caps, thus my recommendation. Yes you can use the Magnum Caps on them. DANNY
 
ive got about 1500 magnum caps and am always adding more, I did price the rws 1081 and they were around 15.00 a tin I found locally. ive got the standard nipple in and put the musket nipple up. im just gonna use this rifle close range on hogs ill use pyrodex p with a wonder wad in between a 600 grain no excuse bullet
 
FWIW, I have several New Englander's and Black Mountain Magnum's, 50's and a couple of 54's. We use them for deer hunting and otherwise shoot them a fair bit. The #11 caps is all we use, both regular and magnum, and ignition is not a problem as long as the cap is seated all the way down on the nipple. Frankly I have never noticed a difference between the standard and magnum shooting at the range. When hunting I try to use the magnums just because.

Our standard load is 100gr (measured) Pyro RS. When hunting in Oregon where we can not use the projectiles that must not be mentioned here, we use cast pure lead Maxi-balls, 370gr in the 50 and 435gr in the 54. As you know, these are pretty light guns. Recoil on the 50 is bad enough, when I shoot the 54 I make sure my fillings are tight before touching off. Never shot a 600gr projectile, and I think I would want the chiropractor standing by if I ever do.

As mentioned above, the cap must be firmly down on the nipple. When I first started shooting these (and my muzzle load shotguns as well) I would get an occasional hammer fall without ignition. Re-cock and it would always go off with the second strike. I started seating the cap by gently lowering the hammer and then gently but firmly pushing on the back of the spur. You can sometimes feel it push the cap a bit further down. I can't recall having the problem since adopting this practice.

Good luck on the piggy's, share some pictures with us.
 
thank you sir ive shared some pictures I just have to find a good picture host. I shot the 600s today you were right they are pretty brutal. I settled on 90 grains pyro p gave me around a 1.5 inch group at 50 yards
 
One more thing, shooting those heavy loads, if your gun has a wood stock watch out for cracking in the wood in the middle of the up curve near were the breech plug mates with the tang. TC actually changed the design from wood screws holding the tang and trigger guard to the stock, to a modest through bolt replacing the forward tang screw and screwing into an additional threaded hole in the trigger guard.
 
Unfortuanately this is the awful looking black one, which I hate the stock but for a never fired black mountain mag for 200.00 ill settle with it
 
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