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fishmusic

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Shot my Pedersoli Kentucky Kit Rifle today. It's my second trip to a range and my first flintlock. It's .45 cal and I was using 45 gn fffg and a .010 pillow ticking patch shooting from a rest. Lot's of work left but I am happy with the group at 25 yds. Here are pics of the rifle and target. https://www.flickr.com/photos/155924534@N06/26828757538/in/dateposted-ff/
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Haven't figured out how to display photos directly yet.
 
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Hi,
Very fine looking rifle!
You were happy with the rifle's performance?
What did your patches look like?
A long gun's patches should be almost usable again. No burn through, no tears.
Have you seen Dutch Shoultz's paper on the proper loading procedures for a muzzle loading rifle.
The cost is about $20, but is well worth it.
I have mentioned it before, and you may have read it.
I shoot anything from .36 cal. to .62 cal. and shortly .75 Jaeger.
A felt wad soaked in bees wax & olive oil ( dry )over your powder to protect your patch and lube your barrel.
That rifle should shoot a ragged hole with five shots at twenty five yards, and two inches at fifty.
But only "IF" you can see that far.
Have a great day!
Fred
Thank you for sharing with us pictures of your fine rifle.
 
You're off to a good start. Both in finishing your kit and developing an accurate load. You are close to being able to post pictures. Flickr can be a bit more complicated than some.

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On the Flickr site, when the picture is displayed, there is an arrow next to the star. Click on the arrow and you go to the share photo page. You want the BBCode heading to be underlined. The photo path should be a blue highlighted line. Copy that line and paste it in your posting. That message has a lot of unnecessary information. You only want the information starting with the and ending with the [img]. Be sure to include both [img] prefixes and your picture will be displayed.

Nice rifle by the way.

I recommend a thicker patch of 0.018" ticking. Your groups will tighten up as you get more experienced with your rifle.
 
Old Ferd,
You had me blushing shyly after your recommendation and then lost me with the Bee's Wax soaked felt wad which is not what you were recommending a few sentences before..


I agree with you that shooting patches should ALMOST be reusable

I have long thought that groups shot at 25 yards are rather meaningless. Their one value is that they show you are actually on the paper

Fishmusic has a fine looking rifle but if it has, as I suspect, a pinned in barrel he will soon alter its appearance with Hot soapy water when cleaning it

I have decided to slightly miss spell names of people who miss spell mine

Doug Shwartz
 
Old Ford,

I am very happy with the rifle's performance so far. My very first trip to a range was an eye opener regarding consistent ignition. This trip had a fresh flint and all shots fired. The only thing is the trigger. It is not a set trigger as on my Hawken percussion rifles. Hence I must learn to better my follow through. I did not post pics of the target for my 5 off hand shots :redface: .

I have Mr. Schoultz's treatise on accurate shooting and used it on this trip. The patches were lubed with 5:1 ratio of castor oil in alcohol and allowed to dry over night. I could not retrieve any patches because this was an indoor range so that's still an unknown. This batch of patches were pretty slick and I will try a drier patch going forward. I will also go to the outdoor range near me to be able to retrieve patches.
 
Dutch,

Spot on that 25 yards is good to get you on paper but not much else. Windage in this rifle can now be adjusted and the patch and load variables adjusted to tighten the group. Will follow your book to get to 50 yd.

I have your pamphlet but still don't have the dry cleaning method! Currently I clean with unheated tap water and wet patches to prevent wetting the stock. Dry and displace water (WD40), and oil with Barricade. A mutual friend, Bill Martin of Georgetown, Texas, taught me that one and it works but I want to see y'alls method. Dry is intriguing.

:eek:ff Regarding name spelling; My first name is Kim and my Christian name is Heaston. Invariably people hear it as Ken Houston or Heston even after they read it. Water off a duck's back :bow: .
 
Kim, Look on the last page of the book. You'll find the relatively Dry Rifle Cleaning Method spelled out..
Use minimal water, Just Damp with Moose Milk ti;; pulling clean patches. then coat all interior of the bore with WD-40..

I used it for some years with no sign of any damage.

EWgere did Fishmusic comes from.

People who tell folks to look me up but get the name wrong prevent google searches from finding me..

You gget real crnancky when you become an antique. I should apologize.

but probably won't.

I never produced a "Pamphlet" I wonder what it would look like.

Dutch .
 
Kinda like the one in yer daddys bottom drawer but with less pictures?

Ya I can see the misspelling of yer unique name could hinder finding you on line.

Myself?, I have no on line existence other than right here. No tweet, no face book, no linked in. 1984 guys dont know nothin bout me. Its a good thing :wink:
 
Dutch,

I love flyrodding. Worst ever fisherman but it gets me outdoors and there are so many rewards. I love playing blues guitar. I am the patron saint of mediocre guitar players but I have fun. Hence fishmusic! I have used that moniker for many years.

I will look at my collection of your stuff again but your description is similar to my method. Only I soak the bore with water first and use Barricade.
 
25 yards is rather meaningless for long guns, but with one exception, small game. Normally I shoot at 50 to 100 yards. But for squirrel head shots I'll sight in at 30 yards which is about as good as I can do. IMHO 50 to 75 yards makes the most sense for hunting rifles as shots at deer in the eastern woods averages well under that range. But I want to be grouping in the kill zone at 100 yards with the deer rifle as well.
 
Kim,
We have a few touch spots in common. My older daughter married this tall gentleman Dan Lagace whoo is world renown fly caster, writes articles, He has the talent to fly cast with either hand which apparently not easy to do. Some English Lord flew over here (florida) to have him teach the trick.
For 15 or more years I auditioned musicians back in the peak of the folk singing period as I had 5 venues to keep happy and I was able to find jobs for them in other places as well

It was wonderful, all over St. LouisI had people playing the music I liked so I could plan my evenings by the music style I wanted to hear that night..

If after cleaning your rifle a few days earlier and running a clean patch down the barrel doesn't pull black crud or orange rust you are OK. My method avoids the water and saturates the metal with the oil of WD-40 so corrosive material and/or water can't get into the metal.

Dutch Schoultz
 
Hanshi,
Shooting at 25 yards is fine for small game as you say.
Judging a rifle's behavior when shooting at 25 yards when developing a load for all ranges is a bit meaningless as the misbehaviors you want to eliminate happen after the 25 yards point. Off balance balls will not had time to become flyers. "The ball hasn't had time enough to decide what it's going to do in such a short distance.

%0 yards tells you in no uncertain terms what's wrong and what needs to be adjusted

When coaching I had people excited about their 25 yard groups but who were quite dismayed how that group would open up at twice that range to3 and 4 inch chaos and some off the paper at 100 yards.

If you have tight groups at 50 and 100 yards, your chipmunk shots at 25 will be amazingly tight.

In my humble opinion
Dutch
 
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