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meanmike 
45 Cal.
Posts: 533
01-23-18 11:25 PM - Post#1665513    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

CC, my first reaction was the same as yours, then remembered he had another .50 cal rifle.

Michael

 
Colorado Clyde 
Cannon
Posts: 14297
Colorado Clyde
01-24-18 12:11 AM - Post#1665518    

    In response to meanmike

That makes more sense....Thanks...



 
CapPopper 
40 Cal.
Posts: 301
CapPopper
01-24-18 05:57 AM - Post#1665523    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

Lol Clyde other 50 cal.... Guess that's partly on me I've delt with several if you count teaching people how to use and clean them and never had any issue getting a gun clean before

 
Colorado Clyde 
Cannon
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Colorado Clyde
01-24-18 05:59 PM - Post#1665629    

    In response to CapPopper

Water gets trapped in the pitting, creates rust......Do not let it air dry....Use ethanol instead, (100%), AKA denatured alcohol or HEET in the yellow bottle...Immediately following cleaning..

Diederot's 1771 encyclopedia on chemistry states that "Spirit of wine" (ethanol) has a greater affinity for water and acids than oil, or salt.
He also states that when mixed with acids (and he goes on to reference sulfuric acid) they lose much of the acidity.


 
CapPopper 
40 Cal.
Posts: 301
CapPopper
01-24-18 06:03 PM - Post#1665630    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

Ill try it but if I clean it with water again it never rust the second time....

 
Colorado Clyde 
Cannon
Posts: 14297
Colorado Clyde
01-24-18 06:06 PM - Post#1665631    

    In response to CapPopper

  • CapPopper Said:
Ill try it but if I clean it with water again it never rust the second time....



Slow down and read my post again.....you missed the best part.


 
CapPopper 
40 Cal.
Posts: 301
CapPopper
01-24-18 06:41 PM - Post#1665639    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

I just don't see how a second cleaning with water doesn't rust if the issue is water trapped in pits.... I didn't miss anything it's just not logical that sometimes it rusts because of trapped waste when the water has been the only thing I haven't changed...

 
Colorado Clyde 
Cannon
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Colorado Clyde
01-24-18 07:14 PM - Post#1665642    

    In response to CapPopper

Think through it logically...

  • Quote:
Diederot's 1771 encyclopedia on chemistry states that "Spirit of wine" (ethanol) has a greater affinity for water and acids than oil, or salt.
He also states that when mixed with acids (and he goes on to reference sulfuric acid) they lose much of the acidity.



Hint:
Water when combined with salts (the byproducts of BP Combustion) form acids.


Edited by Colorado Clyde on 01-24-18 07:18 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
fleener 
50 Cal.
Posts: 1238
01-24-18 08:12 PM - Post#1665647    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

50 cal.

fleener

 
CapPopper 
40 Cal.
Posts: 301
CapPopper
01-24-18 08:16 PM - Post#1665648    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

I see what you're saying but Windex is supposed to help do about the same thing... Ill get some and try it im hoping to try some prb loads again this weekend hoping to find one that shoots decent finally so ill test that too

 
Colorado Clyde 
Cannon
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Colorado Clyde
01-24-18 08:22 PM - Post#1665650    

    In response to CapPopper

  • CapPopper Said:
I see what you're saying but Windex is supposed to help do about the same thing...




Says who ?........

  • Quote:
“If I had an hour to solve a problem I'd spend 55 minutes thinking about the problem and 5 minutes thinking about solutions.”
Albert Einstein



Edited by Colorado Clyde on 01-24-18 08:26 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Kansas Jake 
50 Cal.
Posts: 1413
01-25-18 03:21 PM - Post#1665786    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

A little off topic, but I just received an email notice that Graf's is only charging $10 Hazmat fee on 4-50 lbs. Other charges apply. This might be of interest in folks following this thread and in need of BP etc.

I have no connection to them other than I've ordered a few things in the past.

 
Colorado Clyde 
Cannon
Posts: 14297
Colorado Clyde
01-25-18 03:26 PM - Post#1665790    

    In response to Kansas Jake

  • Quote:
Other charges apply.



I'd look more closely.. I'll bet you end up paying full price somewhere..

Like the old 10% off deals....where the price is raised 15% first.

Marketing..


 
CapPopper 
40 Cal.
Posts: 301
CapPopper
01-25-18 03:27 PM - Post#1665791    

    In response to Kansas Jake

If I had the money id buy some and when I do have the money the 10 dollars won't matter.... If it was 10 dollars hazmat for any amount that would be different

 
Grenadier1758 
58 Cal.
Posts: 2214
Grenadier1758
01-25-18 06:28 PM - Post#1665829    

    In response to CapPopper

The hazmat fee is only charged one time whether it is 1 pound or 50.

 
Kansas Jake 
50 Cal.
Posts: 1413
01-25-18 07:21 PM - Post#1665844    

    In response to CapPopper

Given you past posts, I didn't think you would probably be interested at this time, but thought if there were other folks looking to order BP, this would be a good thread to drop the information.

Clyde, I think the "other charges" are the normal shipping charges still apply.

 
Colorado Clyde 
Cannon
Posts: 14297
Colorado Clyde
01-25-18 07:25 PM - Post#1665845    

    In response to Kansas Jake

  • Kansas Jake Said:


Clyde, I think the "other charges" are the normal shipping charges still apply.



Now I'm not saying that this is the case with Graf, ....But, I have seen online retailers selling other goods offer discounts only to make up the difference somewhere else....Like shipping.

It pays to shop around and track prices over time....Because often what appears to be a deal, isn't...


 
Kansas Jake 
50 Cal.
Posts: 1413
01-26-18 07:23 PM - Post#1666054    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

I don’t disagree with the shopping around. For example, if another vender sells the same powder for $3 per pound less and ships for less and you order 10 pounds, then the hazmat fee reduction may not mean much.

Edited by Kansas Jake on 01-26-18 07:23 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
CapPopper 
40 Cal.
Posts: 301
CapPopper
01-26-18 07:37 PM - Post#1666059    

    In response to Grenadier1758

I know but they want you to order 4 pounds or more and I can't swing that much cash

 
Kansas Jake 
50 Cal.
Posts: 1413
01-26-18 08:24 PM - Post#1666073    

    In response to CapPopper

I didn’t think you would be interested at this time but I wanted to share this in case someone was contemplating a powder or caps order.

 
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