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Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
01-13-18 11:09 AM - Post#1663141    

    In response to Coot

  • Coot Said:
Two possible objections to "floppy" rods:
1) Does the flex interfere with the feel of the load being properly seated? and for those who like to compress their load, hard to do compared to a stiff & heavy metal rod.
2) When the rod flexes, it rubs against the bore & some might be concerned about wear.





3. Flexing requires more force to accomplish the same goal.

So a rod that flexes, makes loading more difficult. It puts more stress on both the rifle and the shooter.


Edited by Colorado Clyde on 01-13-18 11:10 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Scota4570 
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01-13-18 12:32 PM - Post#1663153    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

I spent some time looking around. These guys have metal rods of many materials, sizes and lengths. They will have something for anyone who want to make a range rod.

http://www.onlinemetals.com/merchant.cfm?pid=2053&step=4...

Although expensive, they also had titanium rod stock. That would be crazy strong and light weight. One could use a 3/8" metal ramrod and not mess up the balance of the rifle.

Edited by Scota4570 on 01-13-18 12:33 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
01-13-18 01:25 PM - Post#1663165    

    In response to Scota4570

This guy will make you a wooden rod with a titanium core if you send him the titanium rod...

http://www.periodramrod.com/

Probably the best of all worlds...


 
meanmike 
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01-13-18 02:30 PM - Post#1663173    

    In response to Rifleman1776

I like the Delfina rods, I used a 7/16 for .50 and it is not floppy.
Michael

 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
01-13-18 08:56 PM - Post#1663223    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

  • Colorado Clyde Said:

Aluminum will gall,.



Unless it's anodized....then it is harder than your barrel...and abrasive.


 
dragnetbill 
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01-14-18 06:24 AM - Post#1663246    

    In response to Coot

Two possible objections to "floppy" rods:
1) Does the flex interfere with the feel of the load being properly seated? and for those who like to compress their load, hard to do compared to a stiff & heavy metal rod.
2) When the rod flexes, it rubs against the bore & some might be concerned about wear.

We are still talking muzzle loading, I hope.

 
larry wv 
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01-15-18 10:57 PM - Post#1663660    

    In response to lonewolf465

3rd vote for the 3 piece CVA rod. Wally world had them for 15 dollars a few years ago. It's handy to swap lengths around.

 
Zug 
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01-16-18 11:54 AM - Post#1663753    

    In response to lonewolf465

  • lonewolf465 Said:
I'm looking for a one piece brass range rod for my GPR flintlock. Any suggestions for sources??



I'd suggest a stainless steel or just a regular steel rod instead of brass with a bore guide for this reason - steel threads are stronger than brass threads by 60% + depending on the alloy of each and how the material is threaded. I prefer both my rod and jags to have steel threads - just me and my 2 cents - your mileage may vary .


 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
01-16-18 09:32 PM - Post#1663920    

    In response to Zug

Zug makes good point....

I have broken a lot of rods, jags, pullers, worms, and brushes....The weak material has always been brass or aluminum....I've never broken steel on steel.


 
Stlnifr 
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Stlnifr
01-25-18 03:08 PM - Post#1665778    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

I have a wooden one, a aluminum one, a brass one and a steel one.I think I might have to many for just one rifle.

 
Rifleman1776 
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Rifleman1776
01-26-18 09:52 AM - Post#1665941    

    In response to Stlnifr

  • Stlnifr Said:
I have a wooden one, a aluminum one, a brass one and a steel one.I think I might have to many for just one rifle.



Too many that is just not possible. In this game, he who dies with the mostest ml 'stuff', wins.
I must have 40 rods which are kept and carried in fishing rod cases.

 
Stlnifr 
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Stlnifr
01-26-18 12:49 PM - Post#1665977    

    In response to Rifleman1776

Like I said I have four. I only use the one that came with the rifle. The other three I got because I decided I may need them in the future.

 
meanmike 
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01-26-18 01:55 PM - Post#1665984    

    In response to Stlnifr

I have two ram rods for every rifle, one wood for cleaning between shot and one for loading, which is stainless steel. I also have some Delron ( please excuse the spelling ). They work well also, but I use 7/16 size for .50 cal and I like how they work. I don't care for the smaller ones, they are to flimsy and are hard to grip.

Michael

 
SgtMaj 
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SgtMaj
01-27-18 11:18 AM - Post#1666169    

    In response to lonewolf465

Here's why everyone should use a steel or heavy brass ramrod, like I NOW do. Broke this Renegade wood ramrod off into base of my thumb about 4 months ago. There was a whole lot of bleeding and just now have gotten the feeling back in my thumb. I replaced it with a good hickory rod from TOW, but just for show now.
http://tinypic.com/m/k18k1s/1

 
necchi 
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necchi
01-27-18 11:43 AM - Post#1666177    

    In response to SgtMaj

  • SgtMaj Said:
Broke this Renegade wood ramrod off into base of my thumb about 4 months ago. There was a whole lot of bleeding,,


While it is said that improper handling while loading,,
(needing to use short strokes)
And/Or simply a bad rod with run-out is the cause of a broken ramrod.
I too received a nasty wound in my palm from a broken wood rod,
It's been over 25 yrs now,, I still have the scar in the palm of my right hand.
JohnT
Molon Labe~


 
SgtMaj 
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SgtMaj
01-27-18 12:25 PM - Post#1666188    

    In response to necchi

It was just an old rod, probably 25-plus years old. Stuff happens
And, I have a good, heavy 3-piece CVA lifetime brass range rod and a TOW steel one for my .58 3-band Enfield and my bench. They get all the workouts now. And I've found ... I'm never too old to learn a valuable lesson.

 
necchi 
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necchi
01-27-18 08:05 PM - Post#1666255    

    In response to SgtMaj

  • SgtMaj Said:
It was just an old rod, probably 25-plus years old.



Arrgg, it was a bone-head rookie move,,
But darn it! It Hurt! It's really hard to put a band-aid on your palm and make it stick and actually help!
JohnT
Molon Labe~


 
LongrifleDoc 
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LongrifleDoc
01-28-18 12:06 AM - Post#1666280    

    In response to necchi

  • necchi Said:
  • SgtMaj Said:
It was just an old rod, probably 25-plus years old.



Arrgg, it was a bone-head rookie move,,
But darn it! It Hurt! It's really hard to put a band-aid on your palm and make it stick and actually help!


I was taught to use my fingers on the rod, not my palm. That gives some protection from an accidental discharge or a broken rod.

 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
01-28-18 12:39 PM - Post#1666316    

    In response to LongrifleDoc

  • LongrifleDoc Said:

I was taught to use my fingers on the rod, not my palm. That gives some protection from an accidental discharge or a broken rod.



Me too, also probably explains why I have broken a half dozen rods and never been skewered.


 
Mad Irish Jack ODonnell 
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Mad Irish Jack ODonnell
02-02-18 05:20 PM - Post#1667347    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

When I started this here ML stuff back in 1978, a greybeard said, "Never grab more 'an 6" t' 10"of rod. only do short strokes. Push until ya hit bottom, an' give 'er one good seatin' shove." Been doing it that way since. I only broke maybe 4-5 wood rod. All but one was the grain separating and looking like a knife blade. Since 1982 I've used a "Wonder Rod" as a range only rod. Same procedure, short stroke loading. One good seating push. NEVER had a problem. So I'll just keep doing it my way. Each to his own. Some kin get along with the Blackfeet. Others just lay there and decay.

 
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