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John Wirths

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I'm 78 years old and probably waited too long to find out anything using this new tech stuff.
Oh well If you can't open the pictures, I will give up. thanks for your time.
 
sharedalbum

Hey I think I finally figured out how get the picture web site on here.
 
I am sorry to cause so much problem. I will get off of your forum and i will find a website that will work before logging back on.
Thanks again.
 
Haretrigger said:
I'm 78 years old and probably waited too long
Haretrigger said:
I am sorry to cause so much problem.
Hey,, there's no problem here.
If your honest, and don't know this goofey cyber world don't feel bad,
Find a kid between 10 and 40,, they can help.
 
After you tell us about the rifle, tell us about your moniker. "Haretrigger" sounds interesting.
 
Thank Goodness it finally worked. I didn't take very good pictures which might make it difficult for you all to determine what it is. The Rifle has been passed down through the Gish family (so I am told) since Christian Lauer Gish used it in the revolutionary war. I got on Wiki and traced back from my Mother to Christian. About 50 years ago, my brother and I took the rifle apart. Unscrewed the back out of the barrel (you can tell I know a lot about muzzleloader). Anyway we cleaned the barrel and read enough to get the proper caps, powder, balls and wads to fire it. We shot it about 20 times and then cleaned it up for storage of hanging in a spare bedroom upstairs. I have a son and daughter that will get it when I'm gone. One thing I meant to show in pictures was the wear of the ram rod and the burned area around the cap stem. The brass end on the ram rod is almost worn away. And as for the Haretrigger, I decided to use this because it has a Hair trigger. When I cock it and pull the first trigger, I would be able to use a feather to engage the firing trigger.
I would appreciate any info about this rifle. If more pictures are needed, I think I have a hold on how to add more. Thanks for your intrest.
John
 
Nice, I wish I had an older rifle with some family history but as far as I know, none exist...

Now, I hate to burst your bubble but the style of that rifle doesn't look like a rifle that was old enough to by used in the American Revolution...It is always nice to see older rifles that have been kept in the family though...
 
Congratulations on figuring out how to post a link to your photos.

Please don't get upset by what I'm about to tell you about your rifle. I know you researched it but a few things seem exist that don't link it back to the Revolutionary war.

The deeply curved butt plate is typical of rifles that were made in the mid 1800's. Somewhere around 1835-1860.

The exposed barrel resulting from the "half stock" style is also typical of the mid 1800's as is the percussion ignition the gun uses.

A revolutionary war era rifle would be a full-stock with the wood running all the way out to the muzzle of the barrel.

It would also have a rather wide butt plate. Usually these were about 1 7/8" to 2 1/4" wide.
The butt plate would also be almost flat with just a slightly concave curve to it.

The ignition would be flintlock although a lot of the flintlock guns were converted in the mid 1800's to a percussion system.

There is a chance that your gun was made earlier than the mid 1800's and it was modified from a flintlock to percussion but the half stock style was rarely used in America before the Harpers Ferry model 1803 military rifle existed.

It seems to be a nice rifle in good condition for a gun that is over 150 years old and it has been in your family's possession for years so cherish it always.
 
Thank you for your professional opinion. Christian had three sons who were also in the was so with guns in their background, probably one of their sons could have purchased it for a turkey shooting rifle.
Thanks again.
John
 
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