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steve-in-kville 
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12-10-17 06:33 AM - Post#1656127    


I am quite intrigued with the Kentucky style pistols (both percussion and flint). I am looking for my first one but just looking online I am really confused by price ranges: I see some can be had for $200 all the way to $600, So what should I be looking for? I want a shooter, not a wall-hanger.

Many thanks.

 
Colorado Clyde 
Cannon
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Colorado Clyde
12-10-17 09:39 AM - Post#1656147    

    In response to steve-in-kville

Can you be more specific?


 
Dragonsfire 
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Dragonsfire
12-10-17 11:25 AM - Post#1656155    

    In response to steve-in-kville

This was my first one, .54 Pedersoli Kentucky flintlock. Nice You just have to look around for best price.


 
steve-in-kville 
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12-10-17 12:06 PM - Post#1656162    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

  • Colorado Clyde Said:
Can you be more specific?



Like this:

http://www.cabelas.com/product/shooting/firearms/black-powde...

 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
12-10-17 01:24 PM - Post#1656177    

    In response to steve-in-kville

Perdersoli is a well respected brand....I don't own a Perdersoli, so can't offer anything further on that particular gun....
But I have dealt with Cabela's, My list of good experiences won't fill one hand....while the bad experiences will fill the back of a pickup truck.


 
steve-in-kville 
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12-10-17 01:35 PM - Post#1656179    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

For starters, we have a Cabelas within driving distance, but I have not bought anything from them in years.

I do have a really good gun shop that I have dealt with since the late 90's. I'll go to them first, even though I could mail order anything I need (black powder wise). I like to support my locals if I can. They were always good to me.

 
Louisk 
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12-10-17 03:58 PM - Post#1656203    

    In response to steve-in-kville

There's gun shows too. I bought a CVA Kentucky percussion pistol, which appeared to be unfired, last spring for $100.00. Probably could have gone cheaper had I been more of a haggler. I'm sure it's not as nice as the Pedersoli, but it shoots well and has been more fun and less money than one family meal at a nice restaurant.

 
Wes/Tex 
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Wes/Tex
12-10-17 07:04 PM - Post#1656240    

    In response to steve-in-kville

Briefly, stay with a known brand. $600 isn't close to the top end if you add custom made pistols from one the good makers. The old CVA pistols are usable, even though from Spain. Pedersoli is probably your best commercial choice. They have a number of options in walnut and traditional maple. There are several 'presentation' options and a Navy Moll, a name I've never figured out, which appears to be just a Kenturcky with higher grade finish and butt cap. Check around, no telling what you may find. Your local shop may also me able to get options you can't find at a place like Cabelas. Good luck.

 
Flintlock Bob 
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Posts: 138
12-10-17 08:08 PM - Post#1656251    

    In response to steve-in-kville

I have a Pedersoli Harpers Ferry flintlock. The locks have a bad reputation for not being reliable and mine was no exception. I sent it out to be worked over and now it seems reliable but slow. A friend bought a Pedersoli flintlock rifle kit, his lock works better but still has more misfires than any of my other brand locks including a very cheap Japanese lock.

Now the lock on this pistol may be better but every Pedersoli lock I have seen seems to have the same geometry.

Just something to consider.

 
Dane 
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Dane
12-10-17 09:45 PM - Post#1656267    

    In response to steve-in-kville

Just like anything else, you get what you pay for.
Just for starters on a custom build.... barrel $80-125, lock $175, trigger, guard, side plate, thimbles, another $100 (conservatively), wood $25 to $250 depending on your tastes.
Then about 40 to 150 hours labor, again depending on styles, and tastes.
Can a reliable shooter be had for $300? Sure.
If authenticity is your first concern, ..... No.
So you just need to decide what's important to you, and you can spend accordingly.

 
azmntman 
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azmntman
12-11-17 09:05 AM - Post#1656314    

    In response to Dane

years ago had a cheapo .45 ky flinter. I liked it, went off as designed and was accurate enough. Likely got at cabelas or basspro. Not sure why I got rid of it, maybe cuz BP became so hard to find.

I say start cheap then save for the best

 
58 caliber 
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58 caliber
12-11-17 10:40 AM - Post#1656340    

    In response to steve-in-kville

I see you are in Pennsylvania and said you are within driving distance of Cabelas. If that is the Hamburg store then you are within driving distance of Dixon's which is the best muzzleloading store I have ever been in. Might want to try them as well. I have dealt with Cabelas for years and have not had any bad experiences.

Dave
"Those who give up freedom for security deserve neither freedom nor security."
~ Benjamin Franklin


 
Phil Coffins 
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Phil Coffins
12-11-17 11:51 AM - Post#1656354    

    In response to steve-in-kville

It's hard to read people on the web so I'm going to suggest you start with a good pistol and work up from there. Almost any "inexpensive " pistol could be a wall hanger but a shooting gun is never cheap. Doesn't matter if it's a center fire or muzzle loader! Rather then having a half dozen Spanish chain store specials that take extra effort to keep working go for as much quality as you can and you will always have pride in them.

 
Grenadier1758 
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Grenadier1758
12-12-17 08:24 AM - Post#1656454    

    In response to steve-in-kville

  • steve-in-kville Said:
I am quite intrigued with the Kentucky style pistols (both percussion and flint). I am looking for my first one but just looking online I am really confused by price ranges: I see some can be had for $200 all the way to $600, So what should I be looking for? I want a shooter, not a wall-hanger.

Many thanks.



If you want a shooter, its all about the lock. It has to have the good geometry for the flint to properly strike the frizzen to spark well. The lock parts need to properly fit to function reliably.

The problems in getting the cheap versions to be good shooters have turned many people away from shooting flint lock firearms. The wall-hanger is likely in the $200 price range. The shooter will be closer to $600.


 
steve-in-kville 
32 Cal.
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01-13-18 05:51 AM - Post#1663093    

    In response to Grenadier1758

Thanks for the helpful replies.

 
hadden west 
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hadden west
01-13-18 09:05 AM - Post#1663111    

    In response to steve-in-kville

Man..you are in the BP capitol of the world. Have you been over to Dixon's Black Powder shop in Kempton. If not, go!!!!

 
hadden west 
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hadden west
01-14-18 09:44 AM - Post#1663276    

    In response to steve-in-kville

Someone else mentioned, the CVA. I bought a CVA from a pawn shop for $50. I don't think that it had ever been fired. It shoots with the best. Not a pretty thing to look at, but reliable and good shooter. I have way more expensive and even custom built pistols, but none shoots any better than the CVA.

I keep saying that I'm going to redo the CVA, but never get around to it.

 
Dave Person 
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01-15-18 12:36 PM - Post#1663529    

    In response to steve-in-kville

Hi,
On February 2 and 3 is the 18th Century Artisan show in Lewisburg, PA. There will be many pistols on display and for sale there.

dave

 
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