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BSchroe 
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BSchroe
11-27-17 09:28 PM - Post#1653914    


A friend was operating on my .50 percussion rifle ...
Again. He brought up a good question . How did the old
Trappers handle dry ball ?

 
Black Hand 
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Black Hand
11-27-17 10:00 PM - Post#1653920    

    In response to BSchroe

  • BSchroe Said:
A friend was operating on my .50 percussion rifle ...
Again. He brought up a good question . How did the old
Trappers handle dry ball ?


Ball screw, shoot it out, remove the breechplug...


 
tenngun 
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tenngun
11-27-17 10:28 PM - Post#1653921    

    In response to Black Hand

Same we do today. Oft times Breech plugs were not as tight and could be removed in the field. Pulling charges was a regular activity so a ball screw was a normal piece of equipment.

 
BSchroe 
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BSchroe
11-28-17 05:22 PM - Post#1654068    

    In response to tenngun

Thanks gents.


I have no doubt dailey carry sort of reduced the incident.

 
smoothshooter 
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12-03-17 02:43 PM - Post#1654909    

    In response to BSchroe

Unscrew nipple, dribble in some powder, screw in nipple, prime or cap, shoot.
If ball only goes part way down barrel, remove nipple, dribble in 20 or 30 grains of powder, SEAT BALL DOWN AGAINST POWDER, cap or prime again, and fire.

 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
12-09-17 11:16 PM - Post#1656109    

    In response to smoothshooter

I once "dryballed" a cannon......Go ahead, ask me how I got it out.


 
tenngun 
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tenngun
12-10-17 10:25 AM - Post#1656150    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

Got to tell us this story CC

 
Wes/Tex 
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Wes/Tex
12-11-17 12:11 AM - Post#1656282    

    In response to BSchroe

  • BSchroe Said:
How did the old Trappers handle dry ball ?


With lots of cussing! I doubt they were plagued with it as much as we...not when your hide's on the line!

 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
12-11-17 10:00 PM - Post#1656418    

    In response to tenngun

  • tenngun Said:
Got to tell us this story CC


The same way you get two 5 gallon buckets apart or two Rubbermaid trash barrels, when they are stuck and wont budge.


 
Spence10 
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12-12-17 12:53 PM - Post#1656490    

    In response to BSchroe

I'm guessing that by "old trappers" you mean from the 19th-century fur trade era. I don't have anything from that time period, but here's a nice one from 50 years earlier, 1774, Dunmore's War, the Point Pleasant campaign:

“Many had to draw their guns because they were so out of order and several came to our camp to get the bullet screws for that purpose.
Bullet drawers was a piece stuck on like they did to make a wiping stick, only the screw closer and much stronger. Sometimes broke them or if the powder was wet, it was very tedious getting a bullet out. We had several drawers in our camp, don’t know whose they were.”

I doubt it was much different in fur trade times.

Spence

 
tenngun 
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tenngun
12-12-17 01:42 PM - Post#1656496    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

The way I get stuck buckets apart is brut strength and ignorance, something that serves for most of my problems.

 
MTplainsman 
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MTplainsman
07-07-18 12:59 AM - Post#1692827    

    In response to tenngun

Good advice already stated, but may I add that adding Anti-Seize compound to the threads of the breech plug, will make your shooting experience 10x better, should you ever have to go that far.

 
crockett 
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07-07-18 11:20 AM - Post#1692870    

    In response to BSchroe

If the gun had a coned breech the ball could not go all the way down. This left some space, you could then dribble in enough powder to fire the ball out of the bore.

 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
07-29-18 09:12 PM - Post#1695361    

    In response to tenngun

  • tenngun Said:
The way I get stuck buckets apart is brut strength and ignorance, something that serves for most of my problems.



Next time run water from the garden hose between the two buckets....The bottom bucket will fill up and push out the top bucket....

I used the same trick to get my cannon round out. hydraulic pressure.


 
Colorado Clyde 
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Colorado Clyde
07-29-18 09:14 PM - Post#1695363    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

I usually shoot stuck balls out.....


 
Elnathan 
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08-05-18 03:59 PM - Post#1696214    

    In response to Colorado Clyde

  • Colorado Clyde Said:
  • tenngun Said:
The way I get stuck buckets apart is brut strength and ignorance, something that serves for most of my problems.



Next time run water from the garden hose between the two buckets....The bottom bucket will fill up and push out the top bucket....

I used the same trick to get my cannon round out. hydraulic pressure.



Flip them upside down and step on the handle of the bottom bucket while pulling on the sides of the top one. The pressure on the handle will distort the bottom/inner bucket and cause the sides to pull away from the outer, allowing air to flow in.

Learned that from my boss back when I was doing tile work and dealt with five-gallon buckets on a daily basis.


 
nhmoose 
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nhmoose
08-05-18 08:27 PM - Post#1696258    

    In response to Elnathan

I would place 2 pounds of Tanerite mixed in them then shoot from 100+ yards.

Don't care if the get separated or not life is to short. [sarcasm/off]

 
Sun City 
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Sun City
09-05-18 03:32 PM - Post#1701238    

    In response to nhmoose

It's a lot easier to THINK about proper procedure before screwing the pooch!!

 
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