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M.D. 
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Posts: 4438
11-13-17 07:29 PM - Post#1651607    

    In response to Billnpatti

One more thing I have thought about and that is centering the sprue. If there is a void and it almost always happens under the sprue than the the minor weight difference between balls should have virtually no effect on short range accuracy.
About the only time I have wondered about possibly witnessing an actual flier was when competing at the hundred yard bull targets.
Even out there the balls almost always struck were I called the shot.
Also, I have noticed a lot less wind drift from my .54 than with the .45 which seems much more sensitive to it.

Edited by M.D. on 11-13-17 07:31 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
meanmike 
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Posts: 358
11-13-17 08:03 PM - Post#1651609    

    In response to M.D.

To me a flier at 50 yards is anything in the 8 ring and at 100 yards the 7 ring. Yes sometimes I can even explain them, but in my opinion they are fliers. What are your called fliers like?
Michael

 
M.D. 
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11-14-17 01:31 AM - Post#1651634    

    In response to meanmike

Any shot offhand that breaks in the black and lands outside at 100 yards. If you can keep them all in the black at 100 you shot a pretty decent score.
I can see at the break using a six o'clock hold if the ball should be in the black.
Usually at our territorial matches all five in the black will take the match. I forget now but I think it is an eight ring black at 100 yards that will give you a 40. Best I ever did was a 43 but have a friend that once shot a 49 at Friendship and still didn't win. Must have had one of the Marsh brothers competing in that match.
That Tim Marsh is a terror with a long gun!

Edited by M.D. on 11-14-17 01:35 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
meanmike 
40 Cal.
Posts: 358
11-14-17 07:02 AM - Post#1651655    

    In response to M.D.

100 yard off hand is tough. I think anything over a 30 is good, we shoot in Phoenix and the wind is terrible most of the time. High 30's is good. I also shoot in California, is Idaho and Ore. You might ask Pat Reed about shooting in Phoenix and Idaho. The wind blow's everything you the rifle and the ball when shooting off hand.
Bench scores in the high 40's are good. I have placed and even won with 46's and 47's many times. I think scores depend on where you shoot. Fliers are different, they are when everything went right and the ball when somewhere else. I once shot a zero at 100 yards off hand every shot looked ok when it broke and every shot was on the paper! Those were fliers.
Michael

 
Rifleman1776 
Cannon
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Rifleman1776
11-14-17 10:22 AM - Post#1651669    

    In response to meanmike

  • Quote:
100 yard off hand is tough.



Good scores are possible. But, it requires practice and strength. Holding steady is the key. Reading wind is important but knowing your gun is paramount. Watching the Hawken match on the primitive range can be a humbling experience. Range is an approximate 135 yards in a gully with devilish winds. Many of the scores almost defy belief. My observation has been most of the top shooters are relatively short but muscular younger guys. Here is where the axiom "beware the man with one gun" really is proven.

 
M.D. 
70 Cal.
Posts: 4438
11-14-17 01:38 PM - Post#1651687    

    In response to meanmike

Pat is a very close friend of many years and is the guy I was referring to who shot the 49 and did not win.
I shoot with him every month in one match or another.

 
meanmike 
40 Cal.
Posts: 358
11-14-17 05:01 PM - Post#1651735    

    In response to Rifleman1776

The question was and is, is it worth the time to weight balls. To me the answer is yes! I also pre measure my loads. After I changed my bad habits my scores in everything went up. I will also say, practicing @ 100 yards off hand will improve your scores. I enjoy bench shooting and that is what I mostly practice ( light bench ).

Michael

 
meanmike 
40 Cal.
Posts: 358
11-14-17 05:12 PM - Post#1651741    

    In response to M.D.

I have had the pleasure of crying at the wailing wall a few times with Pat and Keith. Meaning of crying at the wailing wall, looking at the scores posted for the shoot.

FYI, they usually remember my wife, she shoots better than me.

Michael

 
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