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Mindaugas 
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10-22-17 09:43 AM - Post#1648800    


Hello friends,

I would appreciate your help in identification of the pistol. Thank you very much in advance!









Edited by Mindaugas on 10-22-17 09:55 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Gemmer 
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10-22-17 11:01 AM - Post#1648806    

    In response to Mindaugas

i Can’t see your photos.

 
Mindaugas 
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10-22-17 11:04 AM - Post#1648807    

    In response to Gemmer

I am trying to publish them but unsuccessfully. I have no idea why.

 
Mindaugas 
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10-22-17 11:08 AM - Post#1648808    

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Mindaugas 
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10-22-17 11:09 AM - Post#1648809    

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Mindaugas 
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10-22-17 11:11 AM - Post#1648810    

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Irish Mick 
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10-22-17 12:18 PM - Post#1648821    

    In response to Mindaugas

Sir,
what you have is a non regulation copy of a British Indian army cavalry pistol.The rampet lion signifies Indian Army property. By the pistols crudeness it was absolutely not manufactured in any of the army arsenals.
I hope that this is of help to you.

-The Irish Mick
Arizona Territory

 
Wes/Tex 
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Wes/Tex
10-22-17 01:52 PM - Post#1648829    

    In response to Mindaugas

Once upon a time it was a functioning EIC made version of the New Land Pattern Cavalry Pistol originally introduced in 1796. It was copied by the Honorable "East India Company and was traded and sold throughout southern Asia. Somewhere along the way, yours has had it's swivel ramrod assembly removed and the front band attached with a screw. The lock markings have been restamped to fit in with someone's desires and obviously, lock parts are missing.

There was a naval version produced and copies wee made in Belgium for their use or sale. Later there were conversions to percussion as well as s pure percussion version that served until after the India Mutiny era. This is what it originally looked like.

http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/8347/9752045_1.jpg?v=8CD...

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e9/d6/ef/e9d6...


This is the later Pattern 1858 Cavalry Service Pistol (India Pattern)

http://images.yuku.com/image/jpg/881369b06301b662feeedba0784...

 
Mindaugas 
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10-23-17 03:13 AM - Post#1648890    

    In response to Wes/Tex

Thank you very much!

 
Mindaugas 
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10-23-17 03:13 AM - Post#1648891    

    In response to Irish Mick

Thanks a lot!

 
Va.Manuf.06 
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10-23-17 11:01 AM - Post#1648914    

    In response to Mindaugas

Sorry Mindaugus, what you have is a crude copy of an EIC pistol. The East India Company weapons were manufactured in England and of a quality equal to, if not better than, British military arms.

 
Pete44ru 
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Pete44ru
10-24-17 07:41 PM - Post#1649095    

    In response to Mindaugas

  • Mindaugas Said:




Many firearms were made like this, from materials at hand & copied from whatever, by various native tribal "gunsmiths", most notably in the mountains of the various "stan's" (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Kazakhstan, etc, etc).

 
Heelerau 
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10-27-17 05:06 PM - Post#1649380    

    In response to Pete44ru

Ditto, unfortunately

 
ricky 
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Posts: 2012
10-28-17 02:56 PM - Post#1649516    

    In response to Heelerau

Yes, agree with the above. It is a crude copy likely made in Afghanistan. Sometimes loosely called a Kyber Pass gun. The marks on the barrel and lock are spurios, crude attempt to duplicate British East India Company marks. Some of these were made to shoot (although I wouldn't) and some were made for the tourist market.
Rick

 
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