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Login Name Post: I have no idea what I have        (Topic#304673)
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08-07-17 06:37 PM - Post#1639509    

    In response to Chevelle

The Gun Works in Springfield, Oregon is one of the best. Check out their site.

Alexander L. Johnson 
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08-14-17 10:43 PM - Post#1640270    

    In response to old gunsmith

My guess for what its worth was that it was built late percussion era, perhaps as late as the 1870s. I doubt it is Belgium, more likely an East coast gun with my bet being around New York. Based on the photos the estimate of 350-750 is low in my opinion, put it on gunbroker with those photos and expect it going in excess of the high end of that pretty quickly. Also, that was and still is a high quality gun and would have been expensive for the time, certainly not a run of the mill farmers gun. It is an interesting and desirable piece, take care of it and enjoy.

32 Cal.
Posts: 12
08-15-17 02:15 PM - Post#1640336    

    In response to Alexander L. Johnson

As a 50+ year collector of percussion over/under guns, I concur with the responses of "Old Gunsmith" and "Johnson". I believe that the Beach front sight (patented in 1867) and the rear sight are original. They came very late to the percussion period ... I'd date this gun to the 1870's or maybe even the 1880's. The gun was made in America. The metal is all commercial, including the barrels, locks and german silver fittings. The long tail on the tang and the late type cheekpiece on the stock MIGHT help in eventually identifying the person who made this combination gun. As pointed out, the tang sight was added later in the gun's life. As you can see by the crack in the lock area, guns that use two back action locks left little strength in the wrist area; cracks are commonly seen. So if you ever decide to fire this gun, please reinforce and stabilize that crack .... I continue to fire similar guns in my collection.

54 Cal.
Posts: 1943
08-15-17 09:10 PM - Post#1640398    

    In response to Chevelle

This looks a lot like my "Buggy Rifle" Made By I think
M. S. Hendrick, West Aurora, Illinois”
It could be a twin although mine a single barrel takedown
Mine sure looks like yours, even was even broken in the same place

GUNMAKERS of ILLINOIS 1683-1900 Volume II, by Curtis L. Johnson
On pg.240 there is a Hendricks, Merton S. listed.


William Alexander

Gaucho Gringo 
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12-06-17 01:10 AM - Post#1655381    

    In response to Tinker2

I was also going to suggest most of the sources that others posted. Being a member of Northwest forum I can testify the two main experts on the forum for any muzzle loader are AndyinEverson(who has enough muzzleloading rifles to outfit the Lewis & Clark Expedition and probably then some) and TAC who is also on this forum, which is also a great forum. You should sign up for NWF and post your questions there. We have a bunch of great members who are very knowledgeable and just a great bunch of people. Since you live in Vancouver as I do you are right in the middle of all the action. We don't bite like some other forums do.

40 Cal.
Posts: 106
12-06-17 04:09 PM - Post#1655476    

    In response to Chevelle

I would recommend you contacting Randy Gunkenmeyer (sp?) from the NMLRA, he has a booth on commercial row as well. Good man. He makes these O/U style rifles - flint as well.
I noticed one on his website - RG Gunsmith.

Edited by 52Bore on 12-06-17 04:10 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

Eddie Southgate 
36 Cal.
Posts: 61
12-08-17 01:17 PM - Post#1655825    

    In response to PaulN/KS

Very cool .

Nit Wit 
50 Cal.
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12-09-17 04:19 AM - Post#1655973    

    In response to Chevelle

Contact Mike Nesbit, muzzle loader magazine.
Nit Wit

Posts: 7787
12-09-17 06:25 AM - Post#1655977    

    In response to Chevelle

It does bear a strong resemblance to a Tryon made O/U gun I saw in a set of pics recently. The JHS letters pin stamped on the breech are interesting but the only connection I can find so far are for the Jacobsburgh Historical Society, who does have a muzzleloading program. Not a likely match but perhaps they'd know of rifle makers of the era with similar initials. Kind of a long shot, but any shot is worth pursuing!

32 Cal.
Posts: 12
12-11-17 11:12 AM - Post#1656346    

    In response to old gunsmith

As a collector of various percussion over under guns, I agree with "Old Gunsmith". His reading is spot on ...This type gun with two back action locks was the most common variety ( compared to swivel breech, mule ears, and the unique type using both a side lock and an under hammer mechanism). Your example is one of the better constructed "combination guns", although it is not engraved. Without a maker's stamp, in your gun's condition these tend to sell at auction in the $600 to $800 range. My bet is that this gun was made in the post civil war era (probably 1870's) The component parts were readily available commercially and similar firearms were often put together by part-time gunmakers. Guns like this were made primarily in NY and PA, but examples in my extensive collection range from Michigan & Wisconsin to Kentucky and even Toronto, Canada.

70 Cal.
Posts: 4817
12-14-17 07:18 PM - Post#1656915    

    In response to Olut

Looks like the gun carried by Paints his Shirt Red.

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