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Matt85 
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11-08-12 03:56 PM - Post#1210864    


i believe the lyman plains pistol has a hooked breech (i could be wrong). if it is the case how do i remove the barrel?

ive never worked with a hooked breech gun before. my first attempt failed, i removed the barrel wedge but the barrel iself wouldnt budge.

thanks
-matt


 
crockett 
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11-08-12 04:22 PM - Post#1210866    

    In response to Matt85

I assumed you took the ramrod out. If you drove out the wedge it ought to just lift out- it might be a little of a tight fit. I wouldn't force anything but it ought to swing up and out.

 
necchi 
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necchi
11-08-12 04:31 PM - Post#1210871    

    In response to Matt85

Sometimes at the first time the barrel can be a little stuck in there. Rest assured it's a hooked breech and will tip out of the stock,
*Take the nipple out and cock the hammer back to half to get it out of your way,
*Remove the Ramrod,
*Remove the wedge,

If you can't lift it out now, then place the thing across your leg and smack the bottom front of the barrel,,
Wood mallet? 2x4?

I've had stubborn ones (pistols and rifles) that neded a little leverage with a brass rod down the barrel.
It's the hardened packing grease that can cause trouble and/or humid environments swelling the wood.



 
Matt85 
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11-08-12 04:53 PM - Post#1210878    

    In response to necchi

hrm i tried most of that, less hitting it. im afraid of damaging the wood by being to rough with it.

any one got a picture of a barrel half way out? it would help to see how its supposed to come off.

thanks
-Matt


 
necchi 
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necchi
11-08-12 05:08 PM - Post#1210886    

    In response to Matt85


This guy put's the barrel back in at 13:50,,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldwz_RnDiE4

 
bothenook 
32 Cal.
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11-08-12 08:48 PM - Post#1210952    

    In response to Matt85

got one, had similar problems the first time i took the barrel off. as others have said, go to half cock, remove the ramrod and wedge, then smack it (the barrel) against your thigh. that way you won't hit it so hard that you might damage something, although those pistols are built like tanks, and i doubt you could hurt it short of a 4 pound mechanic's maul. if that fails, turn the gun over, and smack the barrel with a rubber or dead blow hammer. it will pop right out.

 
Cynthialee 
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Cynthialee
11-08-12 09:09 PM - Post#1210958    

    In response to Matt85

If you do what was sugested it should come out. As you never have removed it and have cleaned it a few times it is set in place pretty solid I wager. (should have let me remove the barrel when I wanted to ya doof)


 
Billnpatti 
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Billnpatti
11-08-12 09:18 PM - Post#1210960    

    In response to Matt85

The proper procedure for removing a barrel having a hooked breach is to first place the hammer on half cock, remove the ramrod, remove the barrel wedge(s) and then lift up on the muzzle and remove the barrel from the stock.

 
Zonie 
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Zonie
11-08-12 10:07 PM - Post#1210976    

    In response to Billnpatti

With the gun in the condition the others have described, if the barrel won't come loose, stick a wooden dowel down the bore leaving a inch or so sticking out.

Turn the gun upside down so the barrel's on the bottom and over your lap.

Holding the stock on the sides, give the protruding dowel a light blow with a hammer.

If the barrel doesn't budge, whack the dowel again, a little harder this time.

Don't worry about damaging the gun.
You'll break off the dowel before you will damage the barrel or stock.

After you get the barrel out of the stock, be sure to use a hard wax like Johnsons Wax or a good automotive car wax on both sides of the barrel channel to keep it from sticking to the sides of the barrel in the future.
Just Jim...



 
M.D. 
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11-08-12 10:17 PM - Post#1210977    

    In response to Zonie

It may be glass bedded in place and if so it will need a shock to come loose. I usually hold the front of the stock at the top from underneath and whack the barrel from the underside with a rawhide hammer. The shock is what breaks the bond not the hammer weight. It may also help to put it in the freezer for a half hour before you do this as the cold shrinkage contracts the metal/wood grip as well. MD

 
necchi 
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necchi
11-08-12 10:34 PM - Post#1210980    

    In response to Cynthialee

  • cynthialee Said:
(should have let me remove the barrel when I wanted to ya doof)




Yeah!

 
laffindog 
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11-09-12 08:12 AM - Post#1211026    

    In response to Matt85

Did you buy the gun brand new? Did you buy it used?

A little known secret to accurising these guns is to bed the barrel and solder or epoxy the barrel to the hooked breech. I know that there are several out there with this treatment. I have one in the cabinet that I did this to, it is now a one-hole shooter. If that is the case you will need to remove the screw holding the breech and remove both as a unit.

 
Ghettogun 
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11-09-12 01:54 PM - Post#1211128    

    In response to Matt85

Now that Cynthia has chimed in I think we are getting the picture.I can see by your listed age you are still a youngster. Let me just save you some pain down the road. As much as we hate to admit Women are right, they usually are so its best to just give in and let them have their way. It also helps to loosen the tang bolt 2 or 3 turns so the tang is not putting pressure on the hooked breach.

Edited by Ghettogun on 11-09-12 01:57 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Cynthialee 
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Cynthialee
11-09-12 02:06 PM - Post#1211134    

    In response to Ghettogun

  • Ghettogun Said:
It also helps to loosen the tang bolt 2 or 3 turns so the tang is not putting pressure on the hooked breach.


I'll bet thats the fix right there!

 
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