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Andrew Tanner 
32 Cal.
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Andrew Tanner
06-23-12 09:00 PM - Post#1159853    


I've been searching for real BP in my area for a while and haven't found a source. Even drove 90 minutes to a store I was told had it... no luck.

I ended up buying a pound of Hodgdon 777 fffg. My regular load with the cruddy Pioneer Powder fffg is 25gr in a.50 cal CVA Mountain Pistol. Since 777 is "stronger" than traditional BP and the Pioneer Powder is supposed to be similar, should I just start the 777 at 20 and move up from there, or do I need to start even lower?

As an aside, if anyone knows where to get the good stuff in the SF Bay Area (south bay) please let me know!

Thanks!



 
Don 
58 Cal.
Posts: 2219
06-23-12 09:15 PM - Post#1159857    

    In response to Andrew Tanner

I recently started using 3f 777 in an old CVA Colonial pistol. I used 20 grains under a patched .440 ball. Shoots real well with that load and no ignition problems. You can start with either 20 or 25 grains of the 777 in your 50 cal and see how it goes. I imagine that 30 or 35 would be about max with the 777 in that gun.

Don

 
necchi 
Cannon
Posts: 11690
necchi
06-23-12 10:54 PM - Post#1159891    

    In response to Andrew Tanner

20 should be alright, don't fret.
But part of the issue with the replicants is the amount of "squish" the load get's.
How hard are you going to compress the load ?

20grns of a lightly seated load, will be a different group than 20grns of a heavy hand pressing the load.

It ain't wrong or right, it's just another variable to play with.
Seating pressure matters.

I learned this by shooting two different pistols with my son. He's a schooled shooter, but when we entered the pitsol shooting thing, we where swapping back-n-forth experimenting.
He was getting better groups (damn kid!), when I watched and noticed I was compressing the load less than I was,,,
He still shoot's handgun groups better than I can
JohnT
Molon Labe~


 
Old Ford 
58 Cal.
Posts: 2293
06-24-12 06:31 AM - Post#1159935    

    In response to necchi

Necchi!
Adjust his sights for him.
Fred

 
Andrew Tanner 
32 Cal.
Posts: 22
Andrew Tanner
06-24-12 10:54 AM - Post#1160015    

    In response to necchi

Thanks guys. I'm going out today. Lets hope the 777 ignites better than the Pioneer Powder

 
ml45 
32 Cal.
Posts: 11
06-24-12 01:05 PM - Post#1160054    

    In response to Andrew Tanner

This will get some excited pos or neg . rebarreled tradition to45 cal 14.5 long . leagle to hunt with in mn. 300 grn bullet 65 grn T7 1340 fps Plinker load 440 rb 65 grn T7 1625 fps. Ihave been able to shoot 4 in groups at 125 yds. Twist 1 in 18 bore .451 grv .458. trapper model. Some might say this is to much powder ,if its safe in rifle of same construction why not in pistol . All bullets are paper patch

 
necchi 
Cannon
Posts: 11690
necchi
06-24-12 01:37 PM - Post#1160064    

    In response to ml45

JohnT
Molon Labe~


 
Don 
58 Cal.
Posts: 2219
06-25-12 09:24 AM - Post#1160304    

    In response to ml45

I can't see much difference between a ML rifle barrel and a ML pistol barrel other than length. Thus, why couldn't you use the same loads? Your creation sounds like Pedersoli's Bounty hunter pistol. My only worry would be wicked muzzle flip, I'd probably knock my self out cold.

Don

 
ml45 
32 Cal.
Posts: 11
06-25-12 10:11 AM - Post#1160316    

    In response to Don

Not at all ,7/8 across flat .Recoil is stout but easy to control . Kicks less than 7.5 inch 44/45 revolver .

 
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