At the range this weekend shooting my newest original 16ga. smoothbore to work on obtaining the best pattern possible. The bore in this gun is a little rough and so my load to obtain a good seal was 1-1/8" hard card, 1-1/2" fiber wad, a cloth patched load of shot, and 2 thin shot cards to keep it all in place. I had been shooting for some time, when a guy came up to me and told me I was loading my 1/2" fiber wads the wrong way!?!? :idunno: The 1/2" fiber wads I was using have one end with "hard card" built in and the other is a soft end of just compressed paper. I load the with hard card side up and the soft side against my 1/8" over powder card. That way the portion of the fiber wad pushing against the shot charge is firm and flat. The gentleman told me that you need to load it with hard card end "down" to get an even push from the 1/8" hard card over the powder. He also told me I needed to add a bit of lube on the face of the fiber wad to provide more softening power for the 1/8" over powder card to clean the bore. :slap: I did not have enough time to test fire loads both ways, but what do you say...hard card side of the fiber wad up or hard card side of the fiber wad down and why??? :stir: