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Dusty Bob 
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Dusty Bob
10-14-10 07:10 AM - Post#905152    


Need some help on finding a hunter orange weskit. I would like wool reversible. Any help would be appreciated. Need to be legal.
Thanks,
Dusty
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DEADDAWG 
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10-14-10 07:54 AM - Post#905166    

    In response to Dusty Bob

Try here: justsara@up.net

She does beautiful work, reasonable too.

 
iron maiden 
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10-15-10 04:32 AM - Post#905476    

    In response to Dusty Bob

Ohio Valley Peddler does some mighty fine work as well. Muzzleloader magazine had an article on them a while back. I have the 1750's style and love it. Mine is orange & navy reversible.

Also, if you would talk to Mr. Pullins, he will tell you that orange is period correct...something to do with how they dyed wool back then, if they were going for a madder red and got distracted, it would come out a bright orange....or something along those lines.

 
Trench 
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Trench
10-15-10 05:15 AM - Post#905481    

    In response to Dusty Bob

Here's another route. Check out this page on Bell&Company Traders. They make a hunter orange waistcoat that is at the bottom of the page.

http://www.bellandcompanytraders.com/waistcoats.html

 
Ancient One 
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Ancient One
10-15-10 09:38 AM - Post#905526    

    In response to Dusty Bob

I ordered mine from Bell & Company about 6 weeks ago. Seem like real nice people. Haven't gotten it yet so I can't comment on it. Hope to get it soon, tree rat season opens tomorrow.

Vern
never pick a fight with an old guy, if he's too old to fight, he'll just kill ya.


 
Spence10 
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10-15-10 10:12 AM - Post#905538    

    In response to Dusty Bob

A question for the board at large... why not wear a simple, cheap, modern orange vest over your colonial clothes instead of paying high prices for orange colonial clothes? You can wear it over whatever you have on, warm weather or cold, and it slips off and on in seconds. My vest probably cost $5 many years ago and has served me well both when I'm in period kit and in modern. I've never been able to get my head around the concept of orange period clothing. Am I missing something?

Spence

 
necchi 
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necchi
10-15-10 10:22 AM - Post#905543    

    In response to Spence10

" Am I missing something?"

Not really, it's just because we can.

It kind of fly's in the face of modern, Ya know ?

You gonna Make me wear orange? Guess what, I will but,,,,

It's just one little way to "stick it too the Man".
Kinda like ridin a Harley,,moped has two wheels don't it ?

 
Ancient One 
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Ancient One
10-15-10 11:04 AM - Post#905562    

    In response to Spence10

I also hunt Traditional and Modern. I don't have a M/L scatter gun so all my bird hunting is with modern shotguns, and the attire is modern. However, when I go out for squirrels (my favorite) and other small game and deer I try to dress in as close to traditional garb as I can. Some how the wearing of the modern type of blaze orange vest (color alone is an abomination in my opinion) over top of the hunting frock and the rest of my attire is akin to a big ugly pimple on a really pretty girls chin or a nasty fever blister on her lip (would think twice about kissing her). That's just my take on it.

Vern
never pick a fight with an old guy, if he's too old to fight, he'll just kill ya.


 
Gemoke 
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Gemoke
10-15-10 11:35 AM - Post#905568    

    In response to Dusty Bob

justsara@up.net she`s the best, and with the best price too.

Edited by Gemoke on 10-15-10 11:36 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Spence10 
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10-15-10 01:07 PM - Post#905593    

    In response to necchi

  • necchi Said:
You gonna Make me wear orange? Guess what, I will but,,,,

It's just one little way to "stick it too the Man".


Well, punishing him by spending $100 on a completely farb outfit with teach him a lesson, no doubt.

Spence

 
necchi 
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necchi
10-15-10 01:37 PM - Post#905596    

    In response to Spence10

I owne a sewing machine

Ma ran a fabric shop, and did custom work at home. So I grew up around a seamstress, couldn't help but pick up a few things.
Got a nice basic semi-industrial machine, can stitch anything from silk to 6 layers of canvis. Comes in handy for sewin on my own buttons too.
Everyone should have one.

 
Spence10 
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10-15-10 01:50 PM - Post#905599    

    In response to Ancient One

  • Ancient One Said:
However, when I go out for squirrels (my favorite) and other small game and deer I try to dress in as close to traditional garb as I can.


In Kentucky you are required to wear orange while hunting small game only when those seasons overlap any gun deer season. That's OK by me because I am not crazy about wandering the woods in a natural-color outfit with fur hat, etc., while the woods are full of deer hunters, modern or ML. I usually solve the problem by hunting deer or staying in the cabin.

  • Quote:
Some how the wearing of the modern type of blaze orange vest (color alone is an abomination in my opinion) over top of the hunting frock and the rest of my attire is akin to a big ugly pimple on a really pretty girls chin or a nasty fever blister on her lip (would think twice about kissing her).


I understand. I've found, though, that it is a non-problem for me. I hunt alone, nobody sees me when I hunt, and I soon forget I am wearing the vest and hat once I am in the woods.

I just don't see that having purpose made, expensive period clothing in blaze orange is in any way a solution. It's a problem everyone has to solve according to their own lights, though, and there's no wrong answer. Except not wearing it.

Spence

 
Ancient One 
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Ancient One
10-15-10 02:55 PM - Post#905608    

    In response to Spence10

I understand. I've found, though, that it is a non-problem for me. I hunt alone, nobody sees me when I hunt, and I soon forget I am wearing the vest and hat once I am in the woods.

I just don't see that having purpose made, expensive period clothing in blaze orange is in any way a solution. It's a problem everyone has to solve according to their own lights, though, and there's no wrong answer. Except not wearing it.


I also do most all my hunting alone ( my sons busy with earning a living and family matters). I must say that I do enjoy the traditional look. Maybe it's all in my head, but I want to wear as close to the traditional look as I can afford. Not so much as how I look to others, but how it makes me feel. In Pennsylvania we must wear blaze orange. That we can not avoid, but at least I can keep the style and lines as close to traditional as I can. I don't know if I'm saying this right but somehow it eases me closer to a time and place that I missed, but enjoy visiting. As for the expense, I spent my whole adult life paying for and providing for my family. Three weddings, two divorces, four collage degrees and all that went with raising the children and now grand children. I don't feel guilty spending a little something on myself. If I had your skills, I would attempt to make my own stuff, but I suffer from chronic inability and must rely on others to satisfy my needs.

I do want you to know that I always enjoy your posts and have learned a lot from them as well as your web site, and I thank you. Stay well my friend.

Vern
never pick a fight with an old guy, if he's too old to fight, he'll just kill ya.


 
Stumpkiller 
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10-15-10 02:58 PM - Post#905610    

    In response to Spence10

I can recommend Shirlee Pfeil (Bushwoman's) for a weskit. I had her make me a red sleeved weskit I wear for hunting (orange not required in NY) and it is a top shelf garment.



(Can't blame her for the model's failings)

http://bushwomans.com/

Her website appears to be ferschimmel at the moment, but you can contact her at bushwomans@bushwomans.com

You can see it in action here:

http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid...
"Don't take life too serious - it ain't nohow permanent."


 
Coot 
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10-15-10 03:09 PM - Post#905613    

    In response to Stumpkiller

Shirlee was the best seamstress/tailor that I have used for 18th c clothing. She was also a friend & we enjoyed her company at events and at her home in W. Va. Sadly, Shirley has passed away and we can only cherish the clothing and memories that she made.

 
Spence10 
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10-15-10 05:52 PM - Post#905645    

    In response to Ancient One

  • Ancient One Said:
I also do most all my hunting alone ( my sons busy with earning a living and family matters). I must say that I do enjoy the traditional look. Maybe it's all in my head, but I want to wear as close to the traditional look as I can afford. Not so much as how I look to others, but how it makes me feel.


Most of it is in our heads, I'd say, but that's the way I like it. I really get into dressing traditionally and prowling the woods, so much so that I prefer doing that to hunting, these days. Never thought I'd say that. It certainly makes even a simple hunt into something special, and having to wear orange is a pain in the arse which could interfere with that if I let it. I do it only when I have no choice. Fortunately, I've found that when I wear my old comfortable, familiar colonial kit and then just slip minimum legal orange over it, the experience isn't really changed. My feet are still wet and cold, my face is still black from powder soot, I still have too much to carry and I still smell really weird, so it can't be all bad.

Experiencing the way the old boys did it on a down and dirty level has always been what it's about for me, so my appearance can take a hit without causing me too much grief.

Spence

 
Stumpkiller 
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10-15-10 06:58 PM - Post#905667    

    In response to Coot

  • Coot Said:
Shirlee was the best seamstress/tailor that I have used for 18th c clothing. She was also a friend & we enjoyed her company at events and at her home in W. Va. Sadly, Shirley has passed away and we can only cherish the clothing and memories that she made.



That is terrible news I hadn't heard. She was finest kind, for certain.
"Don't take life too serious - it ain't nohow permanent."


 
Trench 
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Trench
10-15-10 07:04 PM - Post#905668    

    In response to Spence10

  • Spence10 Said:
A question for the board at large... why not wear a simple, cheap, modern orange vest over your colonial clothes instead of paying high prices for orange colonial clothes? You can wear it over whatever you have on, warm weather or cold, and it slips off and on in seconds. My vest probably cost $5 many years ago and has served me well both when I'm in period kit and in modern. I've never been able to get my head around the concept of orange period clothing. Am I missing something?

Spence



I suppose you do it because you want to, or you don't do it because you don't want to. I think that sums it up.

 
Dusty Bob 
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Dusty Bob
10-19-10 04:18 PM - Post#906464    

    In response to Trench

Well guys I agree with both sides of the fence if that's possible.
I have hunted with a sorta legal vest but thought I would try a new weskit in orange but will have to ponder your very good advice.
Dusty
Dogs leave footprints on your heart


 
Golfswithwolves 
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10-19-10 06:30 PM - Post#906513    

    In response to necchi

  • necchi Said:
" Am I missing something?"

Not really, it's just because we can.

It kind of fly's in the face of modern, Ya know ?

You gonna Make me wear orange? Guess what, I will but,,,,

It's just one little way to "stick it too the Man".
Kinda like ridin a Harley,,moped has two wheels don't it ?


Wearing a blaze orange breechclout should answer the necessary requirement.

 
Ancient One 
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Ancient One
10-19-10 08:11 PM - Post#906536    

    In response to Golfswithwolves

Not in Pennsylvania

Vern
never pick a fight with an old guy, if he's too old to fight, he'll just kill ya.


 
Matt PA 
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Matt PA
10-20-10 12:10 PM - Post#906702    

    In response to iron maiden

  • iron maiden Said:
Ohio Valley Peddler does some mighty fine work as well. Muzzleloader magazine had an article on them a while back. I have the 1750's style and love it. Mine is orange & navy reversible.

Also, if you would talk to Mr. Pullins, he will tell you that orange is period correct...something to do with how they dyed wool back then, if they were going for a madder red and got distracted, it would come out a bright orange....or something along those lines.



That is the one that I went with as well, it's pricey but nicely made, warm and mine is reversible to a deep forest green color.
Here in PA at times we have to wear it so I needed something that will make me legal, function nicely for period dress and be functional (keep me warm), and the reversible side is for camp and the late season when we DON'T have to wear orange.
Late season I will flip it around to the green side and trade the orange cap for a deep hand knit red one for a better period look.

It's bright, but I know I feel better wearing this garment vs a modern safety orange vest....for me it's all about my personal enjoyment of the hunt while staying legal at the same time.


 
Anonymous 
10-20-10 12:18 PM - Post#906705    

    In response to Spence10

  • Spence10 Said:
A question for the board at large... why not wear a simple, cheap, modern orange vest over your colonial clothes instead of paying high prices for orange colonial clothes? You can wear it over whatever you have on, warm weather or cold, and it slips off and on in seconds. My vest probably cost $5 many years ago and has served me well both when I'm in period kit and in modern. I've never been able to get my head around the concept of orange period clothing. Am I missing something?

Spence


I agree. I don't get it. If you're trying to be HC an orange weskit is not historically accurate, so what's the point? Put an orange vest over your HC weskit and save your money.

 
RJLJML 
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RJLJML
10-20-10 08:45 PM - Post#906847    

    In response to Jack Wilson

i understand where spence and jack are coming from there really is no differance from a modern vest to a weskit. i wore a modern vest for years even though my other hunting clothes were the same i wore at rendezvous. then the zipper broke and got a little ripped up? (gravity has a way of sneaking up on ya!) then i wore a piece of blaze orange blanket(fleece?)as a matchcoat until i realized it wasnt solid blaze orange as the state requires. i now have a blaze weskit from justsara and am completely happy with it. she really does do nice work for a very reasonable price. so i guess im on both sides of the fence as well. i dont understand how guys and some gals will waste a whole sunday watching football on tv when u could be stalking some patch of woods? so we all have our quandries.

 
Stumpkiller 
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10-21-10 01:35 PM - Post#907018    

    In response to RJLJML

When I'm hunting in a natural frock I wear a modern vest just out of pure self preservation.

"Don't take life too serious - it ain't nohow permanent."


 
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