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Login Name Post: Middlesex Village Officers Fusil...        (Topic#248050)
gizamo 
45 Cal.
Posts: 932
07-04-10 04:23 PM - Post#874321    


With all the interesting comments about these guns...I decided to find out for myself.

First off, if this is representative of their quality. I got no complaints.








Second on my list...

With 60grs of ffg and a patched 610 ball ~ it hits at exactly point of aim at 25 yards.



Edited by gizamo on 07-04-10 04:25 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
RickD 
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RickD
07-04-10 04:53 PM - Post#874332    

    In response to gizamo

Thats a nice looking gun..


 
Muskeg Stomper 
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Muskeg Stomper
07-04-10 05:13 PM - Post#874337    

    In response to gizamo



 
fitter 
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07-04-10 05:49 PM - Post#874348    

    In response to gizamo



 
RickD 
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RickD
07-04-10 05:55 PM - Post#874350    

    In response to fitter

Would you mind if I ask the price of the gun?


 
gizamo 
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07-04-10 06:08 PM - Post#874355    

    In response to RickD

Not at all...

Kittery Trading Post had it in Maine as a used gun. I walked out the door with it for less then $400...


fitter....

Here is a question for you as I know you to be a builder. Could you explain how the gun is not HC or PC, if that is your issue with it?



Edited by gizamo on 07-04-10 06:13 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
RickD 
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RickD
07-04-10 06:52 PM - Post#874367    

    In response to gizamo

I think you did well in all honesty I would have thought more


 
poordevil 
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poordevil
07-04-10 07:51 PM - Post#874389    

    In response to gizamo

the lock fits in the mortis better than the $1,000.00 wait for 6 months boom stick I have. Maybe I too will get a BaBo made gun.

 
Mike Brooks 
Cannon
Posts: 6686
07-04-10 08:23 PM - Post#874397    

    In response to gizamo

Have you ever seen a real English Officer's fusil ?

 
buzz 
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Posts: 693
07-04-10 09:06 PM - Post#874404    

    In response to Mike Brooks

i talked with several supplier of these he told me there re good/ok biuldes thn there are a few who just put out crap he said the trick is finding the ones who do better then the other ones
this one looks to be pretty nice
inletting does look nicely done
i say it worth the price and wait time

 
Okwaho 
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Posts: 1864
07-04-10 09:43 PM - Post#874413    

    In response to buzz

In other words:

All pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal than others?
Take your best shot
Tom Patton

 
Okwaho 
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07-04-10 09:46 PM - Post#874414    

    In response to Mike Brooks

Hey Chicken Man,

You just had to ask didn't you ?

 
boomm 
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boomm
07-04-10 11:07 PM - Post#874442    

    In response to gizamo

Nice rifle. . boomm.

 
fitter 
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07-05-10 12:48 AM - Post#874458    

    In response to gizamo

I think Mikes question pretty well covers it.I would take that $400 or less and save it towards somthing of quality. I, myself would use the money for a good barrel and piece of wood.Or I could buy that chicken from Mike that I always wanted . Mike will you throw a coop in too?

Edited by fitter on 07-05-10 12:53 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
1601phill 
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Posts: 2816
07-05-10 02:15 AM - Post#874466    

    In response to gizamo

looks good,its very close to the ones i have seen.ever so slightly thicker in the for end & the ones i mentioned have very fancy side plates & inlays(in silver,they belonged in very wealthy families). i wish guns like yours were readily avail here.

 
gizamo 
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Posts: 932
07-05-10 04:40 AM - Post#874474    

    In response to Mike Brooks

  • Mike Brooks Said:
Have you ever seen a real English Officer's fusil ?



Nope...not a one.
Haven't found any Real English Officers to ask, that would have carried that fusil, either..

But it fits nicely into my collection of guns. Think I'll nestle it between my Canoe Gun and my Pedersoli Brown Bess Trade gun..

I'm actually thinking of taking a ride down to New Hampshire and looking at some of their other guns. The folks that ownd MVT have an open invitation to anyone that wants to stop by and visit with them. Seems like a good group of people to do business with. That would give me a chance to handle the original Ketland that this gun was based on, as it is in their collection.

What I said in the OP was that I'm happy with the quality, reliability, and accuracy.

I'll add that I'm extremely happy with the price

 
Mike Brooks 
Cannon
Posts: 6686
07-05-10 07:42 AM - Post#874492    

    In response to gizamo

I'm glad you're happy with your gun, especially the price when you consider an American gun builder can't even buy a lock and barrel for that price. But then again, why support American craftsmen when you can support a bunch of Indians.
In my opinion, If Elmer Fudd was an Officer in the British army in the 18th century, this would have been the gun he was carrying.

 
RickD 
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RickD
07-05-10 07:50 AM - Post#874495    

    In response to Mike Brooks

Think he might use it on wubbits??


 
jbg 
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Posts: 1326
07-05-10 08:21 AM - Post#874507    

    In response to RickD

  • RickD Said:
Think he might use it on wubbits??



No, he would have used it on wabbits!

 
gizamo 
45 Cal.
Posts: 932
07-05-10 11:25 AM - Post#874570    

    In response to Mike Brooks

Mike,

Actually, I bought it used. So I'm supporting Kittery Trading Post here in my home State of Maine. One of the last great gunshops that buys alot of American made guns. They undoubtably employ over 100 American citizens.

Middlesex on the other hand is a New Hampshire company that does indeed employ New Hampshire residents. That family has been doing trader rows at 'vous for decades.

So, by my purchase of this gun...a good deal of Americans benefited by it, all people that I'm happy doing business with. Folks that are employed, paying taxes, and involved with the gun trade.

By your line of reasoning, someone who buys an original English or French made gun is just as guilty as someone buying a modern reproduction. Both were made outside of the U.S.of A .....

I am truly glad that you are Happy for me...it makes my (and Elmer's) day.

And point of order, if I may...

I do believe it is ~ "Waskily Wabbit"...

 
wayne1967 
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Posts: 582
wayne1967
07-05-10 11:38 AM - Post#874575    

    In response to Mike Brooks

The sad thing is look around your house and see how many 100% american made products you find.

 
gizamo 
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Posts: 932
07-05-10 11:52 AM - Post#874578    

    In response to Mike Brooks

  • Mike Brooks Said:
I'm glad you're happy with your gun, especially the price when you consider an American gun builder can't even buy a lock and barrel for that price. But then again, why support American craftsmen when you can support a bunch of Indians.
In my opinion, If Elmer Fudd was an Officer in the British army in the 18th century, this would have been the gun he was carrying.




All the tongue in cheek aside,...

I do buy American made Flintlock guns... I have some customs and semi-customs by some very well known makers.

So MIke, I do support American makers. But this isn't what this thread is about. Last time I checked this was a Muzzleloading Forum.... Not a Custom Builders forum. I guess I mistakenly thought that this forum was open to the discussion of lots of different guns. I purposely sought out and bought a MVT Co. gun to see what it was like. That's my right to do, Amigo....

Now go to the Blackboard and write Pedersoli, 100 Times....



So let's recap. The Middlesex Village gun I bought is a really good gun, shoots like a dream. I bought it used ~ supporting a gun shop and it's employee's ~ here in Maine. MVT Co. is a NH based company that employes Americans...who work hard and pay taxes.



 
Mike Brooks 
Cannon
Posts: 6686
07-05-10 12:27 PM - Post#874587    

    In response to wayne1967

  • wayne1967 Said:
The sad thing is look around your house and see how many 100% american made products you find.


Probably 80%


 
Mike Brooks 
Cannon
Posts: 6686
07-05-10 12:29 PM - Post#874588    

    In response to gizamo

  • gizamo Said:
  • Mike Brooks Said:
I'm glad you're happy with your gun, especially the price when you consider an American gun builder can't even buy a lock and barrel for that price. But then again, why support American craftsmen when you can support a bunch of Indians.
In my opinion, If Elmer Fudd was an Officer in the British army in the 18th century, this would have been the gun he was carrying.




All the tongue in cheek aside,...

I do buy American made Flintlock guns... I have some customs and semi-customs by some very well known makers.

So MIke, I do support American makers. But this isn't what this thread is about. Last time I checked this was a Muzzleloading Forum.... Not a Custom Builders forum. I guess I mistakenly thought that this forum was open to the discussion of lots of different guns. I purposely sought out and bought a MVT Co. gun to see what it was like. That's my right to do, Amigo....

Now go to the Blackboard and write Pedersoli, 100 Times....



So let's recap. The Middlesex Village gun I bought is a really good gun, shoots like a dream. I bought it used ~ supporting a gun shop and it's employee's ~ here in Maine. MVT Co. is a NH based company that employes Americans...who work hard and pay taxes.




Fine and dandy. But, it doesn't remotely look like an original British Officer's Fusil.

 
Kapellmeister 
Moderator
Posts: 2091
Kapellmeister
07-05-10 12:44 PM - Post#874595    

    In response to Mike Brooks

Mike... I'm not tryin' to be a smarta$$... really... but could you (or someone else even), post some pictures of what a British officer's fusil does or should look like? Let's make some objective comparisons. By the sounds of his posts, I'm sure even gizamo would appreciate seeing the difference.

I don't claim to be an expert by any means, but as much as I think I can see the differences in "cheap" repros and the more PC ones... (and personally... I don't like the Indian guns)... I think I'd put out $400 for that one if only to pass it on to someone for that price and get them started muzzleloading!
~s.D.g. ~


 
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