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ffg 
36 Cal.
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11-25-09 06:38 PM - Post#786954    


QUESTION-Did thompson center make a .58 cal renegade in a flintlock?

 
BrownBear 
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11-25-09 07:19 PM - Post#786974    

    In response to ffg

I'm not aware of it, but could easily be wrong. I've got a couple of them in cap, and my hunting pard has one, too. They're called Big Boars. Dandy rifles. Fast handling and really accurate. And whomp to spare.

 
ffg 
36 Cal.
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11-25-09 07:38 PM - Post#786989    

    In response to BrownBear

Do the big boars say it on the barrel, this one does not,it only says renegade .58 cal. Also what is the twist of your big boar barrel?

Edited by ffg on 11-25-09 07:46 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
mykeal 
58 Cal.
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mykeal
11-25-09 10:07 PM - Post#787038    

    In response to ffg

The .58 Renegades were Custom Shop builds, according to the T/C web site. No data as to flint or cap, but I imagine since it was a custom job you could specify which one you wanted, and both were probably built at one time or another.

Both the .58 Big Boar and .58 Renegade were 1:48, according to the web site.

 
ffg 
36 Cal.
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11-25-09 10:32 PM - Post#787049    

    In response to mykeal

Thank you Mykeal, will this T/C web site give any info according to ser#? Could you give me the web site

 
BrownBear 
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11-25-09 11:29 PM - Post#787062    

    In response to ffg

All three of ours say Big Boar rather than Renegade right on the barrel, though in all respects they're single-trigger Renegade Hunters and 1:48. My pard's has the QLR, while neither of mine do.

If you're after a flinter and can find such a thing, I highly recommend it. I'm aware that once upon a time GM made drop-in 58 cal flint barrels for the Renegade/Hawken if you can locate one used. As I recall they are 32" and 1:72, but I'm ready to be corrected.

The same hunting pard with the Big Bore has the GM 58 barrel in cap, and it's a dandy too. From what we've been able to shoot and measure, there doesn't seem to be any accuracy difference between the 1:48 and 1:72, but the theorists in our midst will start spouting formulas now that I made that claim. I'll stand by what I see on target paper over what can be read on computer screens, though.

 
ffg 
36 Cal.
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11-26-09 08:32 AM - Post#787152    

    In response to BrownBear

thanks brown bear, but mine is a 27" t/c barrel that has .58 renegade stamped in it, with double set triggers that is a true renegade, with a t/c factory recoil pad, i'am still alittle puzzled!

Edited by ffg on 11-26-09 08:36 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
mykeal 
58 Cal.
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mykeal
11-26-09 08:57 AM - Post#787157    

    In response to ffg

  • ffg Said:
Thank you Mykeal, will this T/C web site give any info according to ser#? Could you give me the web site


It's pretty well hidden.

Go to the T/C Home page: Thompson Center Home Page

Click on Muzzleloaders in the left hand column.
Then click on Barrel Twists; it's in light gray letters just under the Muzzleloaders title.
That brings up a popup window which displays a barrel twist chart for all Thompson Center muzzleloading barrels. Under the Renegade heading you'll see that the .58 Renegade barrel was a Custom Shop only build. There is no serial number information available.

 
ffg 
36 Cal.
Posts: 70
11-26-09 04:22 PM - Post#787295    

    In response to mykeal

thanks again, this rifle is a beauty, cant wait to shoot it, what do you think balls or conicals to start, always had caps thru the years this is my first flinter and it will be something new for me

 
mykeal 
58 Cal.
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mykeal
11-28-09 06:36 AM - Post#787744    

    In response to ffg

Personally, I'd start with prb's, but then I shoot very few conicals, so I know little about them.

 
BrownBear 
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BrownBear
11-28-09 10:19 AM - Post#787789    

    In response to ffg

You can snort the conicals up to the point that you'll bring tears to your eyes. In my hands and my uses, I'd really only need the conicals if I was suddenly going to start long range shooting. Lots of whop with the balls inside 100 yards where I shoot, and easier both on the shoulder and the lead supply.

Your rifle will speak for itself, but the four 58's I own (2 Big Boars and 2 customs) all thrive on 80-90 grains of Goex 3f or Pyrodex P under a .570 ball patched with .018 ticking and a homemade lube. And they all seem to shoot better at those load levels with 3f or P, rather than 2f or RS. Yeah, they shoot well with lots more 2f or RS under them, and I'd do so for a moose or elk hunt. But 80-90 grains of the faster powder is accurate as can be in all the rifles and death on deer, while lots easier on the shoulder and the budget.

 
ffg 
36 Cal.
Posts: 70
11-28-09 10:03 PM - Post#787987    

    In response to BrownBear

Thanks guys you all have been so helpful, i do appreciate it

 
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