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kr54 
36 Cal.
Posts: 55
01-14-09 04:03 PM - Post#664473    


Does Jack put any identifying marks on his rifles?
I bought a pre-owned .36 caliber flintlock that was sold as one he made. It has a 42 inch barrel that is 13/16 inches across the flats. The lock is identical to the small Siler. It is full stocked without a nose cap, tailpipe, patch box or butt plate. There is a toe plate and at the heel, there is a piece of black inlet material (wood or horn?). The stock has an area removed near the muzzle so that the ramrod can be removed more easily. The rifle stands about 58 inches tall. The cheek piece has two inlays, a crescent moon and a hunter's star. The barrel is pinned. There are double set triggers, the trigger guard looks like Garner's Bean guard. All the furniture except the front sight (brass and German silver) and the side plate (brass or German silver) are steel.
Thanks for any information you can give me.

 
mazo kid 
70 Cal.
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mazo kid
01-14-09 05:26 PM - Post#664504    

    In response to kr54

Pictures would be nice as what you have described could have been made by any one of a number of builders. I can't say if he signed all his rifles, but I have a Garner/Jones "Grand Rifle" and it is signed as such by them on the top barrel flat. Hopefully, someone who has one or more of his rifles will chime in. Emery

 
paulvallandigham 
Passed On
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paulvallandigham
01-14-09 07:12 PM - Post#664568    

    In response to kr54

Have you pulled the barrel and looked at the bottom flat in the barrel mortise? Sometimes you find signatures there, too.

 
Packdog 
45 Cal.
Posts: 671
01-14-09 07:17 PM - Post#664571    

    In response to kr54

Why not call Jack and ask him? PM if you want his number.
Ken

Edited by Packdog on 01-14-09 07:21 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
kr54 
36 Cal.
Posts: 55
01-14-09 09:06 PM - Post#664609    

    In response to paulvallandigham

I tried that. Nothing anywhere on the barrel or lock. I haven't checked on the trigger yet.

 
kr54 
36 Cal.
Posts: 55
01-14-09 09:07 PM - Post#664610    

    In response to Packdog

I requested the same info from him in an e-mail. Just figured I'd get a response here sooner.

 
Zonie 
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Zonie
01-14-09 10:29 PM - Post#664639    

    In response to kr54

If I'm not mistaken, one of the features common to the guns made by Jack is the method of making the ramrod groove.

His guns (and most of TVM's) only drill their ramrod holes into the forend about 2 inches. Then, from inside the barrel channel they mill a slot that starts at that entry hole and extends back to the lock area.
This leaves an open channel in the bottom of the barrel channel.

I don't know of any other builder that does this, this way.

If your gun has this sort of ramrod groove it was very likely built by Jack or someone at TVM.
Just Jim...



 
redwing 
58 Cal.
Posts: 2104
redwing
01-15-09 12:02 AM - Post#664672    

    In response to Zonie

I have a rifle and a pistol made by Garner. Both guns are signed J. Garner. Jack sells lots of kits yours sounds like a kit.

 
tnlonghunter 
40 Cal.
Posts: 411
01-15-09 08:48 AM - Post#664740    

    In response to redwing

I've got one of his that he signed on the top flat of the barrel. Maybe he signs the ones the completes for customers and doesn't with the kits.

 
patriot 
32 Cal.
Posts: 37
patriot
01-15-09 10:38 AM - Post#664791    

    In response to tnlonghunter

I have a Jack Garner pistol and it is signed on the top flat as well. A couple of years ago, I ordered a completed blunderbus from Tennessee Valley Manufacturing and Jack had another individual make the gun to which this gentleman put his name on the top flat. So, it seems (to me) that this is the way Jack signs his personal work. I think that if Jack himself made yours, it would have had his signature. Call him and ask. He is a very fine fellow.

Patriot

 
kr54 
36 Cal.
Posts: 55
01-15-09 01:49 PM - Post#664856    

    In response to mazo kid

These are the only marks on the barrel.





There was nothing in the barrel channel.

 
redwing 
58 Cal.
Posts: 2104
redwing
01-15-09 03:30 PM - Post#664886    

    In response to kr54

Jack Garner never built that rifle.

 
kr54 
36 Cal.
Posts: 55
01-20-09 09:42 PM - Post#667577    

    In response to redwing

What about the gun tells you that?

 
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