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Login Name Post: Serial Number Dating a T/C        (Topic#214856)
oldwolf 
40 Cal.
Posts: 424
12-12-07 10:15 AM - Post#500106    


Does someone have a serial # dateing table for Thompson Center Renegades and Hawkens?

Does one even exist?

 
Roundball 
Cannon
Posts: 22964
Roundball
12-12-07 10:30 AM - Post#500114    

    In response to oldwolf

  • oldwolf Said:

Does one even exist?



To my knowledge, no...even calling TC, they'll tell you that all such records were lost in the big March'97 plant fire that destroyed a third of their buildings.
Roundball's ML Formula:
"Whompability...Across The Fields and In The Woods"


 
MikeC 
45 Cal.
Posts: 721
12-12-07 12:39 PM - Post#500181    

    In response to Roundball

Yep...I asked TC also and they said it all got burned.

 
No Deer 
45 Cal.
Posts: 860
12-12-07 01:35 PM - Post#500197    

    In response to oldwolf

If it will help give you some perspective, my .50 cal. T/C Hawkin flintlock was bought new in 1975 and is in the high 10,000's for serial number.

 
Richard Eames 
69 Cal.
Posts: 3567
12-12-07 02:58 PM - Post#500230    

    In response to oldwolf

Below are numbers from my records. The used number most likely will not help you much.

Renegade 54, bought used in 1983, #26XXX
Renegade 54, bought new in 1992, #319XXX
Renegade 50, bought new in 1993, #353XXX (kit)
Renegade 54, bought used in 2002, #127XXX
Renegade 56, bought used in 2006, #191XXX

Hawken 45, bought new in 2006, #481XXX

1” 54 Roundball barrel, bought new in 1983, #51XX

Patriot 45 pistol, bought new in 1983, #28XXX

New Englander 12 guage, bought new 1992, #6XXX

RDE


 
pepperbelly 
45 Cal.
Posts: 895
pepperbelly
12-12-07 08:58 PM - Post#500429    

    In response to Richard Eames

Maybe everyone who has a TC Hawken that was purchased new could post the serial number. We may not be able to determine a specific date of manufacture but we should be able to narrow it to a small date range.


Jim

 
Roundball 
Cannon
Posts: 22964
Roundball
12-12-07 09:12 PM - Post#500439    

    In response to pepperbelly

  • pepperbelly Said:
Maybe everyone who has a TC Hawken that was purchased new could post the serial number. We may not be able to determine a specific date of manufacture but we should be able to narrow it to a small date range.
Jim



Actually, I just remembered we started that very thing a year or so ago...check up top in the MLF library section for something like that.
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hank 
54 Cal.
Posts: 1865
12-13-07 08:56 AM - Post#500597    

    In response to pepperbelly

I have a .50 Hawken built from a kit. Got it in February of 1993..serial # is 470717.. Hank

 
bucktales 
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bucktales
12-13-07 09:26 AM - Post#500621    

    In response to hank

My Renegade .50, bought used is #187xxx.
It still has the high hammer. Appx when did T/C switch hammer styles? That might narrow it down a bit.

 
oldwolf 
40 Cal.
Posts: 424
12-13-07 09:46 AM - Post#500632    

    In response to bucktales

Here is mine:

Thompson Center Renegade .54 Cal #357xxx, Bought in 1992 as a kit.

Eventually we should built a table as someone already mentioned above.


Edited by oldwolf on 12-13-07 09:46 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
oldwolf 
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Posts: 424
12-13-07 01:45 PM - Post#500750    

    In response to oldwolf

Oh, I just one an auction for a T/C Hawken too. Serial number #488xxx, which means it is pretty new and might have the QBL barrel.

 
brett sr 
62 Cal.
Posts: 2926
brett sr
12-13-07 02:27 PM - Post#500770    

    In response to oldwolf

built on from a kit, hawken, 25XXXX paperwork was printed in 1988.
Don't let people with no life take control of your life.


 
bucktales 
50 Cal.
Posts: 1338
bucktales
12-13-07 02:27 PM - Post#500771    

    In response to Roundball

roundball,
Couldn't find that link anywhere. Maybe I'm covering old ground.
If there's enough interest ,the members here can maybe start some sort of data base for T/C #s to get an idea of year of production. Make it a sticky perhaps?

 
oldwolf 
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Posts: 424
12-13-07 02:53 PM - Post#500782    

    In response to hank

  • hank Said:
I have a .50 Hawken built from a kit. Got it in February of 1993..serial # is 470717.. Hank



Wait...I thought my #488xxx was of recent manufacture, because of the following:

  • In reply to:

Richard Eames:
Hawken 45, bought new in 2006, #481XXX




I'm confused...

 
41Aeronca 
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41Aeronca
12-13-07 11:02 PM - Post#501036    

    In response to Richard Eames

My son's T/C Hawken, .45 cal, and picked up at a pawn shop, has a serial numb. of 50xxx. By the dates Richard posted I would venture a guess it was manufactured in the mid 1980's...
Scott

 
RedFeather 
50 Cal.
Posts: 1261
12-14-07 07:27 AM - Post#501099    

    In response to oldwolf

I talked with T/C about their s/n system just last week. Lady there asked one of the techs and he said they started with 1000 with their "commercial offerings" around 1970. Best bet is to search the strings here to get a rough idea of the ranges from actual purchases. (Might make a good sticky string.) That won't be exact but it will give you ballpark.

I think that a lot of things other than parts and equipment went up in that fire. T?C seems to use it as a one size fits all convenient answer.

 
Richard Eames 
69 Cal.
Posts: 3567
12-14-07 07:47 AM - Post#501106    

    In response to oldwolf

The 45, year should have been, 1996.

RDE

Edited by Richard Eames on 12-14-07 07:47 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
oldwolf 
40 Cal.
Posts: 424
12-14-07 08:24 AM - Post#501122    

    In response to Richard Eames

  • Richard Eames Said:
The 45, year should have been, 1996.

RDE



Thanks Richard, that clears things up.

 
Walks Alone 
45 Cal.
Posts: 923
12-14-07 01:44 PM - Post#501281    

    In response to pepperbelly

  • pepperbelly Said:
Maybe everyone who has a TC Hawken that was purchased new could post the serial number. We may not be able to determine a specific date of manufacture but we should be able to narrow it to a small date range.
Jim



Some of us started trying to do this back in July 2006, but it didn't get very far. Nor was it made into a sticky because there was concerns on the validity of the information coming only from the memories of members. In as much as the exact documented information will NEVER be avaialble (with the records lost in the TC fire), IMO this would have still been useful information to make readily available even if only to ball park date a TC from. Better than nothing.

Another better than nothing... I started putting together my own doc file from posts made on these forums whenever someone had included that kind of information and I saw the thread.

Here's the link to that old paliver... ? TC ID



 
Bald Mtn Man 
45 Cal.
Posts: 614
Bald Mtn Man
12-14-07 07:46 PM - Post#501449    

    In response to Walks Alone

I just looked up receipts:

T/C .50 cap Hawken kit bought new April 12, 1977
serial number: K51XXX

.54 flint Renegade bought new December 22, 1979
serial number: 52XXX

All my other T/C's were bought used, so info on them would be useless.

 
Geraldo 
40 Cal.
Posts: 312
Geraldo
12-14-07 09:08 PM - Post#501477    

    In response to Bald Mtn Man

I like the idea of being able to ballpark dates, but there is another issue that hasn't been discussed. Firearms go from the factory to distributers and then to shops. There's no saying how long they sit at the distributer's warehouse, or how long they sit on the shelf before purchase. As an example, if I posted the SN of a Remington 700 I bought new, you might think that had some correlation to the year of manufacture, yet I had looked at that rifle sitting in the rack for years before I bought it (IIRC it had two-three inventory stickers on the back of the tag).

So I think the bottom line is that to get ballpark dates that are fairly accurate we would need a fairly large sample.

 
tg 
Cannon
Posts: 10776
12-15-07 06:00 PM - Post#501844    

    In response to pepperbelly

"Maybe everyone who has a TC Hawken that was purchased new could post the serial number. We may not be able to determine a specific date of manufacture but we should be able to narrow it to a small date range.'

My dad bought his new in the early 70's he doesn't remember the year but the serial # is 88931
The smoke's blown out the vent till there is no more,then a charge of powder I pour, patch&ball go down the bore, shoulder the gun and fire some more


 
Vidego 
32 Cal.
Posts: 23
Vidego
05-01-12 01:32 PM - Post#1140841    

    In response to tg

I was given a .45 Hawken (though Hawken is not stamped on the barrel) a couple of weeks ago, by a friend who said it belonged to her grandfather, who bought it in the early 70's. #54319

 
Flintlock Fred 
32 Cal.
Posts: 5
Flintlock Fred
09-06-12 01:26 PM - Post#1187504    

    In response to oldwolf

New member here...so hello...

I picked up a T/C Hawken .45 cal. recently and it's SN is 333XXX.

Judging from the previous posts, it might have been made in the late 90's?

Nice rifle, shoots straight, also looks great hanging on the wall with brass hangers next to my Traditions Trappers pistol.

Shame that T/C moved it's manufacturing, as Rochester, NH is 10 miles up the road from me.

Edited by Flintlock Fred on 09-06-12 01:26 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
lorren68 
40 Cal.
Posts: 377
lorren68
09-06-12 08:05 PM - Post#1187618    

    In response to Roundball

I have a dumb newb question, Does it mean a Kit gun if the serial number starts with a K

 
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