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Anonymous 
01-18-06 06:51 AM - Post#222876    


Does anyone know where to purchase a barrel liner like say 45 0r 50 cal ??? thanks. Bob

 
walruskid1 
54 Cal.
Posts: 1865
01-18-06 07:35 AM - Post#222885    

    In response to lonesomebob

brownells? just a guess. a regular barrel can be turned down to make a liner too.

 
John Taylor 
45 Cal.
Posts: 776
01-18-06 08:06 AM - Post#222897    

    In response to lonesomebob

TJ's has muzzel loading liners in 45 and 50 with a 1 in 48 twist, 7 groove. Phone # 859-635-5560.These are hammer forged out of 4130 steel and are smoother than a button barrel. I install his liners in cartridge guns often. He makes liners from .17 cal. to .50 cal.

 
Anonymous 
01-18-06 06:55 PM - Post#223134    

    In response to John Taylor

Thank you John. Bob

 
Anonymous 
01-18-06 07:05 PM - Post#223142    

    In response to John Taylor

John; I am not familiar with TJ address please. Thanks

 
John Taylor 
45 Cal.
Posts: 776
01-19-06 09:18 AM - Post#223377    

    In response to lonesomebob

T.J.'s
3652 Neltner Rd.
Alexandria, KY 41001
859-635-5560

Mike Sayers is owner and has always treated me fare. He sells the liners by the inch so you are not buying more than you need. If you need help with ideas on how to put a liner in you can e-mail me at john@johntaylormachine.com

 
Wick Ellerbe 
75 Cal.
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Wick Ellerbe
01-23-06 04:41 PM - Post#225560    

    In response to John Taylor

I am looking for a .54 cal. with a slower twist. Any suggestions for this?

 
Davy 
69 Cal.
Posts: 3414
01-23-06 08:34 PM - Post#225739    

    In response to John Taylor

  • John Taylor Said:
T.J.'s
3652 Neltner Rd.
Alexandria, KY 41001
859-635-5560

Mike Sayers is owner and has always treated me fare. He sells the liners by the inch so you are not buying more than you need. If you need help with ideas on how to put a liner in you can e-mail me at john@johntaylormachine.com





 
Davy 
69 Cal.
Posts: 3414
01-23-06 08:37 PM - Post#225741    

    In response to John Taylor

  • John Taylor Said:
T.J.'s
3652 Neltner Rd.
Alexandria, KY 41001
859-635-5560

Mike Sayers is owner and has always treated me fare. He sells the liners by the inch so you are not buying more than you need. If you need help with ideas on how to put a liner in you can e-mail me at john@johntaylormachine.com



John it would be neat to see the process of how this is done on a muzzloader barrel. Any way you could do a photo howto? I sincerely doubt many would be able to do this with home tooling without a lathe etc, but it would be nice to see it done. Just a thought!

Davy



 
John Taylor 
45 Cal.
Posts: 776
01-24-06 10:13 AM - Post#225969    

    In response to Davy

First off, TJ's only has 45 and 50 cal. liners for muzzle loaders.
I use a lathe and piloted drills to take out most of the metal. Then I use a reamer that has oil pumped through it to get .002" clearance over the liner diameter. Sometimes the liner needs to be turned down so there is some wall thickness to the old barrel. The liners are held in with Loctite. I tried solder but it is a pain and changes the color of the barrel and the acid can take the finish off the barrel. Most of the time liners are used to keep the original lettering and finish of the barrel. If I do my part right you will not be able to tell there is a liner in the barrel from the muzzle end, it's a little harder to hide at the chamber end on a cartridge gun. Muzzle loading barrels are a challenge because of the threads for the breach blug, need to keep the old threads if possible or end up making a new breach plug.

 
Davy 
69 Cal.
Posts: 3414
01-24-06 10:22 AM - Post#225976    

    In response to John Taylor

  • John Taylor Said:
First off, TJ's only has 45 and 50 cal. liners for muzzle loaders.
I use a lathe and piloted drills to take out most of the metal. Then I use a reamer that has oil pumped through it to get .002" clearance over the liner diameter. Sometimes the liner needs to be turned down so there is some wall thickness to the old barrel. The liners are held in with Loctite. I tried solder but it is a pain and changes the color of the barrel and the acid can take the finish off the barrel. Most of the time liners are used to keep the original lettering and finish of the barrel. If I do my part right you will not be able to tell there is a liner in the barrel from the muzzle end, it's a little harder to hide at the chamber end on a cartridge gun. Muzzle loading barrels are a challenge because of the threads for the breach blug, need to keep the old threads if possible or end up making a new breach plug.



Thats about what I thought the process would be ... I do have a couple of questions ...

1) Do you use the standard red Loctite to install the barrel, and if so how, much of this stuff do you use in this process of one barrel and liner?

2) Do you completely coat the liner in this stuff, and how quickly does it dry?

I am curious about this aspect of the process. You must have an economy sized drum of it around some where!

Thanx John

Davy

 
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