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MSC 
Pilgrim
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11-08-05 08:41 PM - Post#188481    


Trying to interpret the unclear desciptions on UPS's website, but I figured why not ask people who'll know!

Can you ship a muzzleloader private party to private party (legally) or does it need to go to an FFL? Connecticut to Vermont if it matters.

Thanks!

 
Pittsburghunter 
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Pittsburghunter
11-08-05 09:03 PM - Post#188487    

    In response to MSC

CT to VT? just meet half way there. You avoid the other stuff like extra postage if the piece isn't what the buyer wanted.

 
AZ-Robert 
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AZ-Robert
11-08-05 09:12 PM - Post#188497    

    In response to MSC

I have had two shipped to me, private party to private party, via USPS from Colorado to Arizona. Plain cardboard boxes with plenty of foam. Boxes took some dings and scrapes but the guns were fine. No FFL involved, but that is a state requirement so you'll have to check locally. No need to remove the lock or disassemble the gun, etc, unless you want to in order to make wrapping and packaging easier.

 
MSC 
Pilgrim
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11-08-05 09:21 PM - Post#188501    

    In response to AZ-Robert

Thanks for the quick replies

I'm going to push the roadtrip, too.

 
Claude 
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Claude
11-08-05 09:57 PM - Post#188522    

    In response to MSC

  • MSC Said:
Trying to interpret the unclear desciptions on UPS's website, but I figured why not ask people who'll know!

Can you ship a muzzleloader private party to private party (legally) or does it need to go to an FFL? Connecticut to Vermont if it matters.

Thanks!


No FFL needed.

When you do ship it, don't tell anyone what's in it. Just ship it. If you tell them it's a muzzleloader, they'll only get confused and try to figure out what to do.

The last time I shipped a muzzleloader though the post office, the guy asked the obligatory "Is it breakable, perishable, hazardous, etc." I said, "nope, just some wrought iron".


 
Gary 
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11-08-05 10:26 PM - Post#188534    

    In response to Moderator

Since I buy insurance, I always tell them exactly what it is. Never had a problem with the UPS.

 
walruskid1 
54 Cal.
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11-09-05 07:54 AM - Post#188620    

    In response to Gary

go for the road trip. if i ship another rifle it will be in a crate. still fighting with ups on the last one.

 
Mike Brooks 
Cannon
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11-09-05 08:19 AM - Post#188635    

    In response to MSC

  • Quote:
Can you ship a muzzleloader private party to private party (legally) or does it need to go to an FFL?

No FFL is needed to ship M/L's thru UPS. You may have to argue with pin headed clerks at times tho.

 
wes 
32 Cal.
Posts: 49
11-11-05 10:28 PM - Post#190037    

    In response to Mike Brooks

M/L's fall under the pre-1898 gun law and a FFL is not required. I use UPS, have shipped several with no problems(knocking wood now!!).

 
flinch 
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flinch
11-13-05 08:39 AM - Post#190745    

    In response to MSC

Here in Iowa, no way will UPS accept and ship a muzzleloader, the last 2 I shipped I just sent through the post office. flinch

 
flinch 
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flinch
11-13-05 08:53 AM - Post#190755    

    In response to Mike Brooks

Mike Brooks, you have obviously had better luck shipping a muzzleloader in Iowa than me. I tried to ship a New Englander a couple years ago, tried a local UPS drop off, nope would not take it, drove to a nearby town where there is a main terminal, nope. Stopped at the post office for the heck of it, told them what was in the package, off it went. Sold a shotgun about a month ago, just took it to the post office, told them what was in the package and off it went. Anymore, I won't even bother with UPS on anything I send. flinch

 
Roundball 
Cannon
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Roundball
11-13-05 08:59 AM - Post#190757    

    In response to flinch

The differences between UPS locations is amazing...I've shipped and received all types of firearms via UPS for years here in Raleigh, NC.

All I ever have to when shipping a handgun or centerfire rifle is to show them the signed copy of the FFL so they can see the address on it matches the shipping address I'm sending it to..and nothing is required for muzzleloaders.

 
Mule Brain 
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Mule Brain
11-13-05 02:51 PM - Post#190908    

    In response to MSC

When UPS ask's what is in the box? I always respond "car parts"! The less they know the better, and most of them don't really know the rules.

 
wes 
32 Cal.
Posts: 49
11-16-05 09:56 PM - Post#192743    

    In response to Mule Brain

What I also do is go to UPS.com. You can set up an account, insure your package and pay for it with a credit card on-line. You can also set up a pick-up for your parcel. I have shipped my last 2 long Land Besses this way and I am hooked. And you dont have to give up a whole lot of info.

 
Mad Irish Jack ODonnell 
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Mad Irish Jack ODonnell
11-20-05 09:03 PM - Post#194519    

    In response to wes

I shipped two from PA in the last 6 weeks. One to MO and one to LA. I shipped both UPS via a shipping depot. I insured them as heirloom collectable reproductions. Not an untruth but not an exact discription. No problems. Both arrived in excellant condition and expediantly.

 
CoyoteJoe 
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CoyoteJoe
11-21-05 12:13 PM - Post#194757    

    In response to MSC

Yeah, it's not the regs so much as employee's limited understanding of them.
I shipped a muzzleloader to a friend in Vermont last week via UPS. Clerk said they would have to open it to be sure it really was a muzzleloader. I said "can't, it's padlocked in the case and the key is in Vermont." Luckly I had expected some crap and had brought a copy of my FFL. That is the only reason they did ship it.
I once returned a barrel to Dixie Gun Works via U.S. mail, the same way it came to me in the same tube. They wouldn't touch it till a local cop who happened to be in line at the window said "hell, a gun barrel is just a piece of pipe".
Fools come in all sizes and shapes and give a fool a tiny bit of authority they become JERKS!

 
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