Does anyone know what the thread size and length is for nipples on a Navy Arms 1851 .44 revolver? And the size of the thread and overall length of the wedge screw? Any help would be great.
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Navy Arms 1851 .44 questions
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Track of the Wolf Nipple, PIR-S 6-.75mm metric thread, for FAP - Pietta Remington, Pietta Colt, Pietta Le Mat replica revolvers, #11 CCI cap, stainless steel
•Cone length: 0.300"
•Thread journal length: 0.225"
•Overall length: 0.525"
•Diameter of base: 0.307
Part number PIR-S
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PIR-ES 6-.75mm metric thread, for some early imported replica percussion revolvers, often marked FIE, may be too short for later producion percussion revolvers, #11 CCI cap, stainless steel
Cone length: 0.275"
Thread journal length: 0.225"
Overall length: 0.500"
Diameter of base: 0.307"
Track of the Wolf Nipple, PIR-S 6-.75mm metric thread, for FAP - Pietta Remington, Pietta Colt, Pietta Le Mat replica revolvers, #11 CCI cap, stainless steel
•Cone length: 0.300"
•Thread journal length: 0.225"
•Overall length: 0.525"
•Diameter of base: 0.307
Part number PIR-S
Or
PIR-ES 6-.75mm metric thread, for some early imported replica percussion revolvers, often marked FIE, may be too short for later producion percussion revolvers, #11 CCI cap, stainless steel
Cone length: 0.275"
Thread journal length: 0.225"
Overall length: 0.500"
Diameter of base: 0.307"
Major diameter of threads for 6x.75 is .234
For # 12x28 it's .215.
If you are not in all original parts, possible cylinder swap, it could be # 12x28. Things get iffy on some of the older guns.
The cone length changed on some too. Most of the older ones used the shorter cone. Track of wolf has good illustration showing how to measure.
For # 12x28 it's .215.
If you are not in all original parts, possible cylinder swap, it could be # 12x28. Things get iffy on some of the older guns.
The cone length changed on some too. Most of the older ones used the shorter cone. Track of wolf has good illustration showing how to measure.
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Don’t be afraid to call TOW to check on sizes and what is available. I did this and they were happy to make recommendations and take my order and money at the same time. Nipples were received a few day’s later.
I love brass framed 1851s! And I'll be VERY happy to get this one.
Brassers are good lookers. Can be subject to recoil shield damage and I have seen a few that the frame stretched in my 50 years of shooting. Some developed arbor looseness. Those were subjected to too heavy loads. 36 Cal's hold up better. Keep the loads at the lower end 18-20 gns and shouldn't have any issues.
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I also like the brass framed revolvers for the simple reason of family history in the Civil War. Several of my folks were Confederate cavalry, one of which was irregular Arkansas for the better part of a year (1862) before his unit was formed into a regular company. I don't know what specific weapons they carried, but shotguns and revolvers of any kind were used. Since the brass framed guns were almost all Confederate, it's fun to speculate what revolvers made their way to the western areas of conflict. I enjoy shooting and messing with the three I own, and hope to own copies of the rarer reproductions someday.
Over the years Navy Arms sourced their revolvers from different manufacturers, it might be wise to wait till you have the gun in hand before ordering parts.
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I tell y’all why I love the brass.
1 looks so good. Develops a patina quickly and naturally.
2 brass just don’t rust and that is awesome for black powder.
3 my 1851 was going hole on hole with only a 15g 2ff charge!
4 they are cheaper and more delicate. More delicate means I wanna treat her nicer and pay more attention.
things I don’t like
1 when removing the back strap even though I back the screws of evenly I worry the brass thread will strip eventually.
2 absolutely not recommended for conversion carts
The solution?! I gotta collect em all like Pokémon.
1 looks so good. Develops a patina quickly and naturally.
2 brass just don’t rust and that is awesome for black powder.
3 my 1851 was going hole on hole with only a 15g 2ff charge!
4 they are cheaper and more delicate. More delicate means I wanna treat her nicer and pay more attention.
things I don’t like
1 when removing the back strap even though I back the screws of evenly I worry the brass thread will strip eventually.
2 absolutely not recommended for conversion carts
The solution?! I gotta collect em all like Pokémon.
Why????? Because It harkens back to a time in US History when (excuse the phrase) life wasn't a matter of black or white, but a wide grey area where lots of people struggled to find their place in the moral and political landscape.
Besides they are just COOL looking either polished up or aged. Most of the 1851s I lost in the 2014 Fire were older brass framed guns. I think I bought 1 for $25 once that needed some love, and was given several by the daughter of my father's friend who passed away...she thought they "cap guns" because she knew that "caps" were somehow used on them.
That doesn't mean I'd never buy a steel framed 1851...which I plan to do in both Uberti and Pietta.
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All I ever used was 15grns. 3F in any of my former 1851s..and that's all I will use in the ones I will buy....36 or .44
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