Pietta, Uberti or Pedersoli?

Rokon · Dec 22, 2013

I need an 1860 Colt Army .44.

Based on your experience, which company makes the BEST QUALITY replica?

Thank you all for your help on this one!

Coot · Dec 22, 2013

Nothing wrong with a second generation Colt - but it won't be inexpensive.

trent/OH · Dec 22, 2013

I can't help with the choice you need to make, but I love your attitude.....
"I NEED an 1860 Colt Army .44".

Coot, I guess an Colt second generation wouldn't be a replica???

Billnpatti · Dec 22, 2013

In my opinion, Cimarron is your best bet. http://www.cimarron-firearms.com/ They cost more but you are getting the best.

Wes/Tex · Dec 22, 2013

trent/OH said:
I can't help with the choice you need to make, but I love your attitude.....
"I NEED an 1860 Colt Army .44".

Here, here! At one time, you could rate some makers above others but Pietta uped their game to compete in the CAS market and appear to have included all their line in the process. At present, it's kind of a toss-up with all the makers. Some have specific finish or design points you may prefer, it's going to be your choice. Don't think you'll go wrong with any of them. And, yes, you do need a M.1860! :wink: :haha: My all time favorite style if you hadn't figured out the brass band meant I liked'em! :v

swathdiver · Dec 23, 2013

blackelm said:
I need an 1860 Colt Army .44.

Based on your experience, which company makes the BEST QUALITY replica?

There's no comparison between a 2nd generation Colt and the Italians. It points better and is so much lighter! Well worth the extra price.

Having said that, if your budget dictates, you'd do well with a brand new Pietta.

Dave Rosenthal · Dec 23, 2013

I own lots of black powder "stuff", including several revolvers. When I needed to finish (several 26-round target sessions from 25 & 50 yards distance) my NRA Distinguished Expert in Muzzleloading Pistol, I asked to borrow my son's Uberti Colt 1860 Army in Charcoal Blue finish with fluted cylinder. Reason being that every copy I had seen to date (have more than one friend owning a copy) was of Cimmaron quality and was a tack-driver out to 50 yards (I got to watch them perform and shot a fine example).

Uberti doesn't make them year-round, and Taylor's in Winchester, VA will back me up on this. Not only are the guns beautiful, they're very "tight" when the cylinder locks-up into battery, and the triggers are crisp & smooth as a baby's behind. When you can consistantly hit deep into the black at 50 yards, you have something special in your hands. If you can find one, great, if not, please order one for yourself cause it's worth the wait!

Dave
NRA Distinguished Expert in Muzzleloading Pistol (the Country's 1st)

ricky5042 · Dec 23, 2013

Hi that's good to know Dave

I was wondering if uberti would get a mention as im getting my self a uberti 1858 Stainless Steel .44 new Army, its a really nice looking gun and on half cock the cylinder spins freely but the only issue I have with it is the hammer is hard for me to pull, can I resolve this?
Thanks

Rick

Grumpa · Dec 23, 2013

Tie one end of a long cord around a building block, pass the cord over a crossbeam, and tie the other end around your thumb. Proceed to do "pull-ups" with the block. :grin:

Try that until someone comes along with a "better" solution....

ricky5042 · Dec 23, 2013

lol Naa my condition wont let me do that! :doh:

smd4 · Dec 23, 2013

The Uberti I have captures more of the finer details of the original far better than my Pietta. These include the chamfering on the trigger guard, the crosshatching on the hammer and loading lever, and the smooth shaping of the barrel that swoops up toward the forcing cone, and doesn't end abruptly like the Pietta. The grips are also much better fit (the ones on my Pietta are quite proud).Finally, the Uberti doesn't have writing all over the barrel (It's all hidden under the loading lever).

AZbpBurner · Dec 23, 2013

If you want to sit before the fireplace and admire the pricetag, go for the 2nd Gen Colt.

Otherwise, if you want to shoot, decide by price. Uberti and Pietta are comparable anymore. I've found QC varies by the calendar date; I have Piettas and Ubertis both that approach flawless fit and finish, and also a Uberti 1862 Colt with bad fit - enough endshake that it required better nipples just for the hammer to reach in order to fire.

Cimmaron, is a Uberti distributor, nothing more. They neither manufacture, nor inspect or hand fit firearms they sell.

Look around on-line at the major retailers. Most have Christmas sales, factor, too sales tax and shipping into the total price. Some sellers don't charge sales tax, but do charge a little more for shipping. Some have free or discount shipping this time of year, too.

ricky5042 · Dec 23, 2013

smd4 said:
The Uberti I have captures more of the finer details of the original far better than my Pietta. These include the chamfering on the trigger guard, the crosshatching on the hammer and loading lever, and the smooth shaping of the barrel that swoops up toward the forcing cone, and doesn't end abruptly like the Pietta. The grips are also much better fit (the ones on my Pietta are quite proud).Finally, the Uberti doesn't have writing all over the barrel (It's all hidden under the loading lever).

Hi thanks for that

its good to know the uberti is up there with the like of pieta

iv been advised to get a new set of nipples but im guessing that's just wear and tear.
iv been offered a loading stand for the cylinder
as it may be easier for me than loading on the gun and a .454 twin cavity mould, will the .454 mould be worth getting before I pick the gun up?
Thanks

Rick

dcriner · Dec 23, 2013

Post: Pietta, Uberti or Pedersoli?

Does Pedersoli manufacture revolvers?

Wes/Tex · Dec 23, 2013

dcriner said:
Does Pedersoli manufacture revolvers?

Actually, Pedersoli only makes one percussion revolver. It's a '58 Remington of the high-end quality like the Pietta "Shooters"; high quality replica, browned finish, dovetailed front sight, progressive rifling, etc. Like the Pietta, it's designed to compete in international shoots.

FishDFly · Dec 25, 2013

"Cimmaron, is a Uberti distributor, nothing more. They neither manufacture, nor inspect or hand fit firearms they sell."

The difference between Cimarron and Taylor's pistols versus a generic Uberti is that you can get different finishes for an additional cost.
You can get Case Hardened Blue, Charcoal Blue or
Original.

PRM · Dec 25, 2013

I've got a couple of Uberti C&Bs. Great Guns. Also, bought a couple of Cimarron (Uberti) Cartridge revolvers - both required work right out of the box. Not unusual for the Italian repros. In the end they have made great shooters. Personally the finishes offered by Cimarron are not worth the extra cost. My Bisley had the cylinder so aggressively polished prior to bluing, it would not even lock up and had to be replaced. I would rather spend the money upgrading the springs or other tweaking on the action.

My favorites are the 2nd Generation Colts with the Signature Series Colts running a close second.

Billnpatti · Dec 25, 2013

They have added this revolver to their line up as well: http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/ti...dt_73/pistols-doc-holliday-single-action.html

AZbpBurner · Dec 25, 2013

Generic Uberti???

Taylors can import the same inventory that Cimmarron can. Cimmarron doesn't handle, test fire, tune, finish, or otherwise tweak Ubertis they market. They're an importer like
Taylors, Cherry, Century or any number of importers. None of them open the boxes of their imports.

The varieties of finish available on Ubertis come from the manufacturer; they are not contracted, or applied by anyone else.

Wes/Tex · Dec 25, 2013

Billnpatti said:
They have added this revolver to their line up as well: http://www.davide-pedersoli.com/ti...stols-doc-holliday-single-action.html[/quote]
I don't count something set up for .38 special lead slugs...just my thing! :thumbsup:

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