Richard Eames said:
If you were a member of the NMLRA you would have been at the meeting Saturday night at the shoot and could "accurately" report on what happened to the delivery of the powder as was announced during the meeting.
Then you could report what the NMLRA did to get powder delivered and the major challenges put in place by the "City Of Phoenix" to have the powder delivered to Ben Avery which is 25 miles "north" of the city limits of Phoenix. Seems Phoenix is restricting BP delivery, not the NMLRA.
There is no BP sold in Phoenix, that is why you go TO the shoot, you can not buy BP in Phoenix.
The contractor the last 2 years has failed what she was "promised", the lady does not deliver as promised. She will not be back as a vendor.
Vendors, Marvin's wife had health challenges and he notified the shoot he could not attend and Log Cabin was snowed in on the way.
Any your answer is, leave your wife or drive through unsafe driving conditions?
Why are no Arizona clubs not shooting at the Western? Cannot compete at a National level.
The funny thing is Richard you have your information partially wrong.
In 2012 that was two years ago, the gentleman who was the Black Powder Vendor for the history Winter/Western Shoot did not make it as BATF, apparently took away his FFL, and BP License.
His first name was Don, and he traveled ever year to Ben Avery from Clarksvile, Arkansas. Threw Rain, Snow, and you name it. He was dependable.
BTW in 2012 Don told the NMLRA in plenty of time of his circumstances, and gave them notice of his not coming to support the shoot, and be there selling powder.
Don sold power to customers with proper ID, be they NMLRA Member or not, and did a lot of sale to BP Cartridge Shooters who came from all over the State of AZ because they knew Don would be set up at BASF at the same time the NMLRA was hosting a event there.
People were apparently told in 2013 there would be Powder For Sale at the shoot from DAY ONE that was Tuesday, and the Powder did not show up until late Saturday.
Yes you can not sell REAL BLACK POWDER in Phoenix City Proper, or City Limits if you choose to call them that, But we do have a local vendor in LEVEEN AZ, that is just South of the Phoenix City Limits. The Vendor is Thunderbird Cartridge Company, and they are the only Real BP Vendor in Maricopa County that I know of. Wonder why the NMLRA did not invite them as a vendor.
Why are no Arizona clubs not shooting at the Western is another false statement, as there have always been Arizona Muzzle Loading Club Members Shooting. Plus many Arizona Residents, and Winter Visitor who live all Winter in AZ who shoot the Western. Maybe not a whole club, but members of local clubs.
Also many of the locals pitch in and help with the shoot, like Jim Swanson, his son in law Pete, and his Best Right Hand Assistant, Donna Bald who for years never shot a round. I would like to have $100.00 for ever hour Swanson and his volunteers who were Arizona Residents donated over the years to keep the NMLRA Winter/Western shoot running.
I would like to have $10.00 for ever hour some Arizona Resident volunteered to the Winter/Western NMLRA shoot over all the years there has been a NMLRA Western/Winter Shoot, and would bet if they had not volunteered there would have been no shoot.
From where I stand the NMLRA Western or Winter Shoot has kind of been run like a Mickey “D’s” Franchise where the franchisee told corporate to paint the building solid black, paint the windows back, paint the doors black, don’t put up no golden arches, or highway signs say McDonald's ahead.
That there McDonald's just never did well, and never sold many burger, & fries due to lack of taking advantage of a great location, on a major road with lost of cars, trucks, motorcycle dring by daily, located in a city with a fairly big population of potential customers.
BTW Richard do you know the Ben Avery Shooting Facility host about 90,000 customers annually, (Add to that another 15,000-18,000 visitors for the two day Ben Avery Expot) most of who don't even know there is a NMLRA, because the NMLRA don't event sponsor an fairly cost effective advertisement on the Ben Avery Bulletin Board.