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springfield art said:
The jags don't have to be a specific caliber; just as long as it fits on your ram/cleaning rod, and has nice sharp tines to catch on any stuck paper or cloth material.
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:thumb:

I read his comment above that he searched trackofthewolf for a '.75 jag' but they didn't have any and was responding to that. I thought he veered off from talk about a worm or coil. I guess I missed something....
 
Yes, You might as well get a worm and a cleaning jag. Now I have to ask about your ram rod and who is the manufacturer of your Bess. Most Bess's will have a steel ramrod with exposed (male) threads on the end of the ramrod. If you have a steel ramrod you will need a worm with female threads.
Track of the Wolf's Pedersoli Worm:
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/587/1/WORM-DPor
this version for US threaded steel rods:
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/587/1/WORM-US
A cleaning jag will have male threads and you need a rod with 10-32 female threads for this jag.
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/188/1/JB-75-10
 
Patch puller, if you don’t have one... get one, they’re not expensive. You’ll need a rod with a 8-32 or 10-32 end.
 
Bess's get really dirty fast. They are a bear to clean. Might as well log onto Track of the Wolf and get a full length cleaning rod, wood or brass. Get all the little gadgets that screw on to the cleaning rod, you will probably need them all at one time or another. Regarding pulling a dryball, I have found with my Bess that it's handy to have 3 sizes of screw. If the small first one works then that's great. If it doesn't then hopefully the first one made a nice hole for the next bigger screw. If that doesn't work, I guarantee that the last lagbolt sized screw will hold onto the lead and pull that ball out.
 
Grenadier1758 said:
Yes, You might as well get a worm and a cleaning jag. Now I have to ask about your ram rod and who is the manufacturer of your Bess. Most Bess's will have a steel ramrod with exposed (male) threads on the end of the ramrod. If you have a steel ramrod you will need a worm with female threads.
Track of the Wolf's Pedersoli Worm:
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/587/1/WORM-DPor
this version for US threaded steel rods:
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/587/1/WORM-US
A cleaning jag will have male threads and you need a rod with 10-32 female threads for this jag.
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/188/1/JB-75-10
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Yeah my ram rod is the male variant, made of steel. It's from Loyalist Arms. I imagine I could get a female-female adapter rather than an entire new rod?
 
Many Klatch said:
Bess's get really dirty fast. They are a bear to clean. Might as well log onto Track of the Wolf and get a full length cleaning rod, wood or brass. Get all the little gadgets that screw on to the cleaning rod, you will probably need them all at one time or another. Regarding pulling a dryball, I have found with my Bess that it's handy to have 3 sizes of screw. If the small first one works then that's great. If it doesn't then hopefully the first one made a nice hole for the next bigger screw. If that doesn't work, I guarantee that the last lagbolt sized screw will hold onto the lead and pull that ball out.
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Yeah I've heard they're quite an undertaking. I didn't even know about all the different cleaning tools when I bought it, so I guess I probably should just get em all. I had hoped to avoid stuck balls by shooting with paper cartridges but you're right, never know what could happen so the ball pullers are a good idea too.
 
JohannesKepler said:
Yeah my ram rod is the male variant, made of steel. It's from Loyalist Arms. I imagine I could get a female-female adapter rather than an entire new rod?
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You could also give Loyalist a call. I see worms and ball pullers in their miscellaneous price list at the top of the page (E95650.
http://loyalistarms.freeservers.com/miscpricesUSA.html
Toward the bottom of the list is whisk brush and pick. I like one with the brass bristles (PICKBRUSH).
 
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A small caliber bore brush (like a .22) will catch and retrieve a patch. Once, at the range, I dropped about 5 grains of BP down the barrel and shot the errant patch out.
 
ZUG said:
Bradly_tx said---"I like the squirrel cooker idea(fork). Gonna make me one! Thanks for sharing Grenadier👍 "

So is the two tine pitchfork something to cook squirrels on??? What ever it is it looks deadly :ghostly: :dunno:
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Yep, that’s what I’m gonna do with it. Attach it to the end of my ram rod+build fire+ad dead squirrel=supper👍
 
Grenadier1758 said:
I think that every one of us on the forum has lost a patch and had to retrieve it or will eventually loose a patch down their barrel.

A patch puller (worm) that threads onto your ramrod is an essential accessory. Not only will it pull errant patches, but you can wrap a ball of tow in the tines and scrub the bore most effectively.

I have used a section of clothes hangar and twisted it around my ram rod about 8 turns. I backed it out for abut two or three turns and sharpened the tip. I ran the ramrod to the patch twisted it in the direction to thread the patch on the wires and pulled the patch out.

A CO2 ball discharger will work too, but the section of coat hanger is far more economical.

A look at some of my accessories. The worm is in the center of the picture.

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The fork and the ball puller thread on the ramrod. You do need to pay attention the the thread diameter and pitch when you order such items.
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Grenadier1758 said:
I think that every one of us on the forum has lost a patch and had to retrieve it or will eventually loose a patch down their barrel.

A patch puller (worm) that threads onto your ramrod is an essential accessory. Not only will it pull errant patches, but you can wrap a ball of tow in the tines and scrub the bore most effectively.

I have used a section of clothes hangar and twisted it around my ram rod about 8 turns. I backed it out for abut two or three turns and sharpened the tip. I ran the ramrod to the patch twisted it in the direction to thread the patch on the wires and pulled the patch out.

A CO2 ball discharger will work too, but the section of coat hanger is far more economical.

A look at some of my accessories. The worm is in the center of the picture.

View attachment 38436

The fork and the ball puller thread on the ramrod. You do need to pay attention the the thread diameter and pitch when you order such items.
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Hey Grenadier did you make that fork or buy it?
 
Grenadier1758 said:
I think that every one of us on the forum has lost a patch and had to retrieve it or will eventually loose a patch down their barrel.

A patch puller (worm) that threads onto your ramrod is an essential accessory. Not only will it pull errant patches, but you can wrap a ball of tow in the tines and scrub the bore most effectively.

I have used a section of clothes hangar and twisted it around my ram rod about 8 turns. I backed it out for abut two or three turns and sharpened the tip. I ran the ramrod to the patch twisted it in the direction to thread the patch on the wires and pulled the patch out.

A CO2 ball discharger will work too, but the section of coat hanger is far more economical.

A look at some of my accessories. The worm is in the center of the picture.

View attachment 38436

The fork and the ball puller thread on the ramrod. You do need to pay attention the the thread diameter and pitch when you order such items.
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What is the 2 tined fork (jag?)? Thanks.
 
Grenadier1758 said:
Yes, You might as well get a worm and a cleaning jag. Now I have to ask about your ram rod and who is the manufacturer of your Bess. Most Bess's will have a steel ramrod with exposed (male) threads on the end of the ramrod. If you have a steel ramrod you will need a worm with female threads.
Track of the Wolf's Pedersoli Worm:
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/587/1/WORM-DPor
this version for US threaded steel rods:
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/587/1/WORM-US
A cleaning jag will have male threads and you need a rod with 10-32 female threads for this jag.
https://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/188/1/JB-75-10
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I have seen female/female adapters advertised by one of the larger BP gear suppliers. Who, I can't recall exactly (; I think it was Log Cabin, but if I can backtrack I'll post it).
 
Flinty Scot said:
I have seen female/female adapters advertised by one of the larger BP gear suppliers. Who, I can't recall exactly (; I think it was Log Cabin, but if I can backtrack I'll post it).
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Found one on Track of the Wolf, pretty hefty shipping for where I'm at but I need it so I got it
 
JohannesKepler said:
Was cleaning and oiling up my new Bess today and dumb me managed to get the patch to fall off the ramrod and it's now at the bottom of the barrel. Sure I'm not the first one. Any ways to get it out?
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I realize you already have lots of answers, but, for others...here's my answer for less than $4.00:
 

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